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Anyone going F1 this summer


cobrastang

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We normally go every other year but I've been getting bored with it for some time now.

 

The entertainment other than the race is pathetic.

 

No Tornado fighter doing a low and very loud flypast anymore.

 

No Renault people carrier with the F1 engine driving around the circuit anymore.

 

No Batman car driving around the circuit anymore.

 

No motorbike display riders anymore.

 

No Mini stunt drivers anymore.

 

The Red Arrows become boring when you've seen them a few times. :yawn:

 

Parachute display team. :yawn:

 

The organisers have got no imagination at all.

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..........The virgin car :D

 

Didn't look so good at the end of Bahrain...

 

2 x DNF. :taped:

 

I was chatting to a mate of mine at Willies. They reconed that in CFD they had found a component that would give them 200lb's extra downforce. He said there was quite a buzz around the place (bearing in mind they have about 2860 lb's of downforce total). So they eagerly built the component for the wind tunnel model and awaited the results....

-180 lbs.

So how do you guys think a car that's wholly devised using CFD is going to fare over a seaon?

It's brilliant right up to the point where you cock something up because it's very difficult to be able to see if you have cocked something up, and if you have, what it is.

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I'll be watching some paint dry, it's more exciting. F1 is on its death bed, IMO, without the TV audiences it will wither. There's too much wind tunnel racing (sorry Tony, nothing personal), and that's where the on track positions originate from. Indy are having a radical re think, the Ben Bowlby penned delta shaped car is quite extraordinary. Fans don't care about a couple or more seconds a lap slower cars, they want to see RACING. Colin Chapman came up with a wonderfully simple and cost effective performance equaliser by suggesting all fuel is metered through a flow orifice, given this metered supply you can do what you want, engine wise. Turbo, N/A, rotary, regenerative devices, blah blah. It was poo pooed at the time, now the Indy car people see its relevance to eeking out fuel efficiency and curtailing irrelevant engine development in these "green" times. You'd think it was a new idea....

 

The Bowlby car has no wings, it uses ground effect, and allegedly suffers little downforce degradation when following another car closely. I still can't believe something with such a narrow front track and modest tyre section will handle properly though!

 

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/cars/442165/delta-wing-indy-car-2012-concept-revealed.html

 

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-inside-the-delta-wing-project/

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It LOOKS all wrong but it's a very rear weighted car, statically and aerodynamically, so the front tyres don't have the same loadings as a conventional car. To say it won't work at all is to say Ben Bowlby is an idiot, which he plainly isn't. I agree, it LOOKS wrong and like something out of a comic :) It also looks fresh and interesting.

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