SupraHuman Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.obxracingsports.com/products.php?search_text=supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 James let Lee advise you mate. Lee will see you right, you are just getting confused in this thread, keep it simple bud. thanx guys...your absolutely bloody right!! think i might start a new project thread with a clearer mind etc !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 http://www.obxracingsports.com/products.php?search_text=supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 just deciding if its worth me adding the HKS 264 cams to this. Personally I would go for a bigger AR exhaust housing to start with on stock cams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Lee will see you right, you are just getting confused in this thread, keep it simple bud. Totally agree. Jamesy keep it simple and speak to Lee about things. I must annoy Lee with the amount of questions I ask:). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 good luck with the build mate, agree keep it simple and stick with Lee's advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 No worries It did "blow up" the next time it was mapped a few weeks later but thats another story :D : D: Cough Dan the Man Cough..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Totally agree. Jamesy keep it simple and speak to Lee about things. I must annoy Lee with the amount of questions I ask:). trust me dude you will be a LONG 2nd place behind me in that deptartment!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 good luck with the build mate, agree keep it simple and stick with Lee's advice cheers Col. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 last question for now: what is the BL autobox like without the hi stall converter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 last question for now: what is the BL autobox like without the hi stall converter? Dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) no worries. unsure if a BL box MUST have a hi-stall or if you can run it without...will ask in technical help on that one. Edited March 10, 2010 by Jamesy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Ive not seen them that cheap delivered. They are about that (depending on exchange rate) from full race but you have delivery on top, $100-150 id guess. £110 for delivery plus taxes(if you do it properly) plus you have to pay for a 3" v band to be installed, so it soon adds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 what is the BL autobox like without the hi stall converter? Exactly like a stock box but with firmer shifts. unsure if a BL box MUST have a hi-stall or if you can run it without...will ask in technical help on that one. Answered in tech - no it's not a requirement, you can run a stock stall if you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprab Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 if its any help to you. i have the GT35r (.82ar i think), PE 650`s and AEM standalone on stock cams.. made 492bhp at the fly, im 6speed good luck with the build though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 if its any help to you. i have the GT35r (.82ar i think), PE 650`s and AEM standalone on stock cams.. made 492bhp at the fly, im 6speed good luck with the build though thank you mate - seems the bhp varies from 480odd right up to Mark's 572 on his VVti! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) Exactly like a stock box but with firmer shifts. no it's not a requirement, you can run a stock stall if you wish. Thanks Mig nice one. Edited March 10, 2010 by Jamesy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 James, take this and this and this ,now will you let Lee sort you out man?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 let Lee sort you out lol, he is mate - we had a long chat about it last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Thanx dude ... going with: garret GT35R turbo s/steel manifold custom 3" DP and MP hks wastegate screamer pipe RyanG new ecu 650cc injectors (sard or similar) Outta interest... how much? PM if you dont wanna put it public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Holy shiznits...big move man!! Hope it goes well! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Hello mate just caught up with this thread so will try and add input on a few of your questions The aem fic will work with the BL box BUT u will not be able to change when the stock ecu tells your box when to change gear, think its 6500 rpm. So having cams will be pointless as they won't even kick in. I'm having this problem now that's why were thinking of changing my aem fic for the solaris as my dyno graph is still on the up when its changes gear at 500 bhp and that's before cams and at 1 bar. That's y to get the most for MY build I need a different ecu for the full potential The BL box doesn't need a high stall but you usually match the high stall to the turbo. The bigger the turbo the bigger the lag, so with the correct size high stall it will 'slip' the clutch to the right rpm so your turbo will be on boost to try and reduce lag so its really worth looking into You sound just like I did when I started, mixed opinions, apparent rules you have to follow, best bet is to stick with lee and go with what he says! A lot of your questions I think I've started threads about in the past so could be worth a search. Your build isn't to differnt from mine so I will help where I can to save u going through the crap I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 Cheers Lee Have just agreed to buy the BL box too just to be on the safe side, without the hi stall though as i dont understand get that too much and thought the 3800 might be too high for my small turbo! Thanx again CK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 They come in different stall speeds! I have 3800 for my big turbo, standard auto boxes have a 2800 I think but u can get a 3200! I would search high stall torque converters to understand them better as personally I think the correct size for your turbo will give u better performance to reduce lag and a quicker car in regards to gearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Ryan I really dont agree on the pulling timing making the box last longer, either way its semantics with that much increase in Torque its a case of when not if the box lets go, unless its driven sensibly in which case why bother with the single upgrade, we have F-Cons on auto singles with no problems at all and my old car ran round at 1.4 bar flat out with the trac removed thumping in to gear for ages, as soon as the single went on the box gave up and a BL box went in, these gearboxes are still inherently weak compared to some that could go in and reliably run 6-800 hp. I know for a fact that the stock ecu pulls back the timing and closes the trac butterfly slightly to reduce the levels of torque going through the box. This is done for a reason and was done with the stock levels of torque in mind. When you add a single turbo into the equalation which adds around 150ftlb more torque its only a matter of time before the sprag gear breaks on the box. You just said it your self above.... was fine on the hybrids and went single and look what happened. If you want big power on a auto then TH400 or Powerglide.. Go on the AEM forum and type in Auto and well as auto and retard on supraforums! Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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