SupraHuman Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Very true - i trust Lee 100% and i appricate everyones cars/performance/durability will vary from car to car... James, forgot to mention...I have the water lines for the turbo for you as well.I'll chuck that in with the rest, they already got all the right fittings and have the Goodridge heat sleevs on em' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Need to decide on the ecu route and injectors. 2 options i currently have are: AEM FIC with 650 injectors or F-Con ecu with larger injectors Standard autobox - AEM FIC ( Stock ecu still pulls back timing on changes keeping box safer) BL autobox - Solaris or Fcon (as both of these dont pull back the timing on gearchanges so on a BL Box it can take it but on a standard box it will shit itself sooner than later) Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Also forget to add a Gt35R with 0.68 exhaust housing compressor surges over 1.3bar on stock cams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zofix Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Standard autobox - AEM FIC ( Stock ecu still pulls back timing on changes keeping box safer) BL autobox - Solaris or Fcon (as both of these dont pull back the timing on gearchanges so on a BL Box it can take it but on a standard box it will $#@! itself sooner than later) Ryan Would'nt the AEM FIC work great with a BL auto too m8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Standard autobox - AEM FIC ( Stock ecu still pulls back timing on changes keeping box safer) BL autobox - Solaris or Fcon (as both of these dont pull back the timing on gearchanges so on a BL Box it can take it but on a standard box it will shit itself sooner than later) Ryan Ryan I really dont agree on the pulling timing making the box last longer, either way its semantics with that much increase in Torque its a case of when not if the box lets go, unless its driven sensibly in which case why bother with the single upgrade, we have F-Cons on auto singles with no problems at all and my old car ran round at 1.4 bar flat out with the trac removed thumping in to gear for ages, as soon as the single went on the box gave up and a BL box went in, these gearboxes are still inherently weak compared to some that could go in and reliably run 6-800 hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Would'nt the AEM FIC work great with a BL auto too m8? If you need a BL auto you prob need over 650 injectors!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Don't forget it's the torque that kills the box not the power. I'm glad someone brought it up, boxes are power rated for torque not HP. BL autobox - Solaris or Fcon (as both of these dont pull back the timing on gearchanges so on a BL Box it can take it but on a standard box it will $#@! itself sooner than later) Ryan The BL box is far from indestructible, shift retard is just as important on a BL box as it is on a stock one. There is even a write up on the BL site suggesting that shift retard is used with their gearboxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Standard autobox - AEM FIC ( Stock ecu still pulls back timing on changes keeping box safer) BL autobox - Solaris or Fcon (as both of these dont pull back the timing on gearchanges so on a BL Box it can take it but on a standard box it will $#@! itself sooner than later) Ryan Hi Ryan, am hopful of getting the BL box now fingers crossed.....are you saying the AEM FIC wont work with that now though?? Also forget to add a Gt35R with 0.68 exhaust housing compressor surges over 1.3bar on stock cams are you saying i'll need uprated cams?? would be nice to run at 1.4 bar if poss once mapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 I feel bad now dont mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Do F-Cons come up for sale often on here? cant say i've ever had to look before?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hi Ryan, am hopful of getting the BL box now fingers crossed.....are you saying the AEM FIC wont work with that now though?? Dont let it get out of hand mate, very easy to chase numbers, if i was you id just start with your original plan, you can always go for more power later if you feel you need it. Ryan is saying AEM fic with be fine, stick with that imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dont let it get out of hand mate, very easy to chase numbers, if i was you id just start with your original plan, you can always go for more power later if you feel you need it. Ryan is saying AEM fic with be fine, stick with that imo. Exactly, it's easy building a car for big numbers for a couple of miles. It's a whole different thing building a decent powered car that will last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dont let it get out of hand mate, very easy to chase numbers, if i was you id just start with your original plan, you can always go for more power later if you feel you need it. Ryan is saying AEM fic with be fine, stick with that imo. Exactly, it's easy building a car for big numbers for a couple of miles. It's a whole different thing building a decent powered car that will last. cheers guys. basically im after a daily driver, very responsive and ideally knocking on the door of 530-550fwhp. i've always wanted the BL box, and just feel while one is available it may be a BAD idea not to take it - gaurenteed if/when i screw mine there will be bugger all for sale. so...the AEM fic would still work with the BL box would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 James, forgot to mention...I have the water lines for the turbo for you as well.I'll chuck that in with the rest, they already got all the right fittings and have the Goodridge heat sleevs on em' superstar thanx so much mate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 650? Mine was 950 from whifbitz? I want the supplier details if you can get these for £650 delivered with VAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I want the supplier details if you can get these for £650 delivered with VAT! Ive not seen them that cheap delivered. They are about that (depending on exchange rate) from full race but you have delivery on top, $100-150 id guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Thanx dude ... going with: garret GT35R turbo s/steel manifold custom 3" DP and MP hks wastegate screamer pipe RyanG new ecu 650cc injectors (sard or PE) just deciding if its worth me adding the HKS 264 cams to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 just deciding if its worth me adding the HKS 264 cams to this. Not really. I would suggest going with the original plans and working up from there. Calm down a little and decide what you want, talk to Lee and Ryan, you have changed your mind on spec with each subsequent post. Which manifold is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Take your time Jamesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Not really. I would suggest going with the original plans and working up from there. Calm down a little and decide what you want, talk to Lee and Ryan, you have changed your mind on spec with each subsequent post. Which manifold is it? i know man, sorry ... i think i was nervous about spending all this money and not even making 500hp and/or cooking my box!! its the OBX manifold 321 Stainless steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 i know man, sorry Not heard of an OBX apart from the NA, what spec is it? Dont be sorry, iv been there. From experience, plan it lots, buy it and fit it once. I changed my plans most days and ended up buying items many times over to suit different ideas. Once my engine is built, ill go for a turbo kit and new Syvecs, job done, no messing. Further to that, ill build the car for me, no chasing numbers, not too much listening to the crowd. EDIT - just saw your edit. Im pretty sure 500hp on a single will feel a fair bit different to 500hp oem Twin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 i know man, sorry ... i think i was nervous about spending all this money and not even making 500hp and/or cooking my box!! its the OBX manifold 321 Stainless steel. James let Lee advise you mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Not heard of an OBX apart from the NA, what spec is it?. thanx mate unsure of spec of manifold thats all the info i had....will ask CK now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 James let Lee advise you mate. will do fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 James let Lee advise you mate. Lee will see you right, you are just getting confused in this thread, keep it simple bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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