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Engine dyno here - wahoo !!!


Muffleman

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Been working on this for a while, but it's all in and done.

 

2400hp Stuska engine dyno with full load control, run in programs etc :cool:

 

The adaptor plate for the 2JZGTE has been made already and an AFR built 3.0 single turbo engine is going on next :eyebrows:

 

Here's the dyno with a race spec Morgan v8 on it.

 

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So if your serious about having your engine built, all run in and power mapped on an engine dyno, with real flywheel power graphs, you know where to come ;)

 

And yep, there will be footage of the Supra engine when it's done :cool:

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Looks good Matt

 

Will you be hiring this out and if so how much is it to hire for the day?

 

Also will you adding temperatured control air? if so what range does it have? This is a very cool feature at AER and Brilliant for correction setups on turbos?

 

Hope the window is not glass ;)

 

Ryan

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Looks good Matt

 

Will you be hiring this out and if so how much is it to hire for the day?

 

Also will you adding temperatured control air? if so what range does it have? This is a very cool feature at AER and Brilliant for correction setups on turbos?

 

Hope the window is not glass ;)

 

Ryan

 

Hello mate,

 

Yeah I'm dying to get my hands on it with a Supra engine.

 

The glass is bullet proof, so no worries there !!!

 

Sorting out all the final details for hiring it out etc. All the air supply and extract is balanced. Yep the air is recirculated god knows how many times and its all computer controlled. 7000L water supply tank. EGT sensors on every runner etc etc etc :cool:

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Hello mate,

 

Yeah I'm dying to get my hands on it with a Supra engine.

 

The glass is bullet proof, so no worries there !!!

 

Sorting out all the final details for hiring it out etc. All the air supply and extract is balanced. Yep the air is recirculated god knows how many times and its all computer controlled. 7000L water supply tank. EGT sensors on every runner etc etc etc :cool:

 

Very nice bud :)

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It will be interesting if you can compare flywheel figures from the engine dyno with rear wheel and calculated flywheel numbers from the rolling road.

 

Exactly my thinking mate, I will be doing this as our chassis dyno calculates transmission losses on a rundown, so I'm keen to see how close it is or isnt :D

 

It's worth mentioning, engines dont need to be monsters on aftermarket ecus to be run on the engine dyno, any engine we build can be run in and power tested on the engine dyno from completely stock upwards :)

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Will you be hiring this out and if so how much is it to hire for the day?

 

:yeahthat: how long would it take from arriving onsite to getting a 2JZ-GTE hooked up and ready for mapping?

 

 

Also will you adding temperatured control air? if so what range does it have? This is a very cool feature at AER and Brilliant for correction setups on turbos?

 

Sounds like a great/required feature, could the same be said for the coolant supply as well?

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:yeahthat: how long would it take from arriving onsite to getting a 2JZ-GTE hooked up and ready for mapping?

 

Will know more on this once we've done one mate, which will be next week.

 

could the same be said for the coolant supply as well?

 

Yep, that is also computer monitored ;)

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Will know more on this once we've done one mate, which will be next week.

 

Good stuff :thumbs:

 

 

Yep, that is also computer monitored ;)

 

Just monitored or is controlled to allow to you map for different scenarios, ie cold start, hot start, warm-up and normal running conditions.

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I'm not sure what for ... but I think I want one :). Seems like something from NASA in there!

 

So you can just sit a new/rebuilt engine on that and it will do all the tiresome "running in" for you, without you having to control yourself for the first 500 miles or so under 4k rpm?

 

Cheers, J :D

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Just monitored or is controlled to allow to you map for different scenarios, ie cold start, hot start, warm-up and normal running conditions.

 

The engine is run in and power runs done mate, but the car still has to go on the chassis dyno for part throttle\low load mapping, cold start, hot start etc. The engine dyno is great but you still need to make the car drive nicely :)

 

So you can just sit a new/rebuilt engine on that and it will do all the tiresome "running in" for you, without you having to control yourself for the first 500 miles or so under 4k rpm?

 

Better than that mate, sitting on a motorway for 500 miles or so isn't properly running an engine in, you need to put load on the engine too - so you can have pre-programmed running in programmes that apply load\revs etc in a way to properly run and bed the engine in. The dyno also has a blowby monitor, so as the engine is run in and the rings bed in, you can see the blowby coming down :)

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So from an operators point of view, does it require any extra specialist training or if you've been running chassis dyno for a while, could you just learn which button does what and run an engine dyno?

 

Do you see what I mean? Just wondering from your point of view what difference you see compared to a chassis dyno in terms of operation. Have you had to go on a special engine dyno training course I guess is what I'm getting at.

 

Am very interested in using this service! If only this was 4 months earlier I'd have been banging on your doors!

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So from an operators point of view, does it require any extra specialist training or if you've been running chassis dyno for a while, could you just learn which button does what and run an engine dyno?

 

Paul has had an engine dyno before, it was a Stuska 1200hp model. Yes he had to have training and he will be passing that on ;)

 

I'm somewhat excited to get my hands on it, but it is different to a chassis dyno.

 

You have a joystick in the control room with pots to control load and sweep speed for power runs, but with a power run you run the engine up to 'say' 2k, press the button for a power run and the engine dyno control system takes over for the run. As with a chassis dyno, you can steady state tune in essentially the same way, but instead of a throttle you have a joystick and a pot to dial the load in.

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Sounds very trick, so you can adjust the throttle and load seperately to hit the desired site on the map, very cool indeed :thumbs:

 

The only chassis dyno I have seen that makes a similar task seem fairly easy is the TDi setup, I was sat in the car with the throttle at 100% and the dyno operator could adjust the load and speed to reach the desired site.

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It will be interesting if you can compare flywheel figures from the engine dyno with rear wheel and calculated flywheel numbers from the rolling road.

 

Interesting? Heartbreaking is possibly a better word ;)

 

Sorry, edit to say a superb purchase, the Jap tuning world needs to embrace proper engine dyno testing and mapping, it's like a dirty word at the moment. Average cost from the bigger players like Swindon Race Engines and Engine Developments is 900 to a grand plus per day, plus consumables and VAT. Should be a money earner, wish I could have one here but noise is such an issue these days. Have to be satisfied with one 4 miles up the road :)

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It will be interesting if you can compare flywheel figures from the engine dyno with rear wheel and calculated flywheel numbers from the rolling road.

 

Exactly my thinking mate. I will be doing this as our chassis dyno calculates transmission losses on a rundown, so I'm keen to see how close it is or isn't :D

 

I know that Dave Walker says on the Emerald site that when they have been able to compare engine dyno figures (from other workshops) to "run down" flywheel figures for the same engine on the Emerald rolling road the results have been within a couple of BHP.

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