martini Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Which is why I asked, as that seems extreme to me. To me as long as we don't buy the "Chicken Korma with Rice" - [Microwave on full power for 3min] things then we're doing OK. I'm not trying to do anything special with my body except lose a stone (which I need exercise more than a change of diet for). We see ourselves as cooking food now albeit using sauce jars and stuff, but at least it's not what we would call ready meals/TV dinners. Definitely a step in the right direction dude. I suppose some people might call it extreme, but I think it's extreme to shove cakes into one's face! My current routine is to lose fat... I wake up at 6.30am, do weights and cardio in the gym, come back and have: 3 eggs (1 yolk) fried or scambled 1 slice of granary bread 1 pint of milk with whey protein That's my breakfast! Whilst I have that, I usually make a tea and some marmite and toast for my little lady. Lunch is just a home made sandwich; granary bread with a meat of the week from the deli, and some lettuce, then dinner as above. I essentially have weekends off though, and eat everything from lindt and haribo to curries and kebabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Screw you guys- Im off to have some Sams Chicken fM7tKFqe7Sk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 1 pint of milk with whey protein May I ask why you are having milk with your whey? You are better suited having whey with water and consuming within 20 minutes of your workout. This is when your body needs it most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 May I ask why you are having milk with your whey? You are better suited having whey with water and consuming within 20 minutes of your workout. This is when your body needs it most. I do have it within 20-30 minutes of the workout - including my breakfast of eggs. The gym is close by and I cycle. I have milk with it because it tastes better, and I like milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 May I ask why you are having milk with your whey? You are better suited having whey with water and consuming within 20 minutes of your workout. This is when your body needs it most. Yes if trying to lose weight, no if bulking(milk). There is loads of thoughts on this 20min rule after training, i tend to neck my shake right after it, but iv been experimenting with sipping protein over a period of an hour. And TBH iv not noticed any difference, our bodies react differently, so what works for one might not work for another. Im sipping still, as when the hour is up, iv made my main meal at night, so its works out pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I tend to start having mine towards the end of my workout and sip at is as you mentioned. I still wouldnt have milk on a bulk though. There is no use for it. As adults, there is no need for milk in our diets. As Arnie said.. "Milk is for babies".. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I tend to start having mine towards the end of my workout and sip at is as you mentioned. I still wouldnt have milk on a bulk though. There is no use for it. As adults, there is no need for milk in our diets. As Arnie said.. "Milk is for babies".. I always thought that milk was a good source of calcium and therefore good for bones etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I always thought that milk was a good source of calcium and therefore good for bones etc? Dairylea triangles are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Calcium should be sort from calcium-rich foods and not milk. The commercially pasterurized milk fails to satisfy the bodies calcium needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Dairylea triangles are better. Indeed. Although made from milk, the cheese has been chemically altered by fermentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 The commercially pasterurized milk fails to satisfy the bodies calcium needs. It satisfies my needs for a tasty milkshake after my workout I tried it with water, and it's OK, but it's too awesome with milk. Milk has more protein that water as well, so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I always thought that milk was a good source of calcium and therefore good for bones etc? I thought so too. I don't drink it either though. My diet is a bodybuilding diet without bulking. Morning - 8am 2 table spoons of flaxseeds Cup of oats Cup of Spinach Cup of Strawberries/Cranberries and blueberries 1 Kiwi if I have any With water Blended - 2 pints of the above That keeps me full at about 12. Lunch at 12pm Pre-prepared from night before. Rice or potatoes with a meat dish (should be brown rice but I am too lazy and dislike the taste) With tea and cod liver & fish oil 3-4pm snack If still hungry, a high protein snack - meat/tuna sandwich or something 6pm - dinner, another potato dish with meat If I have time I make another smoothie full of oats and spinach and fruit (1.5 to 2 pints). 8-9pm A protein snack/shake. No carbs. ZMA tablets before bed at 11:30pm. Sounds hardcore but it really isnt. And much much cheaper than buying food from the work cafeteria and tesco, which is what I used to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 It satisfies my needs for a tasty milkshake after my workout I tried it with water, and it's OK, but it's too awesome with milk. Milk has more protein that water as well, so Adding proetin to a protein shake.. Err okay... There are many reasons why milk should be avoided but I wont go into them. Have a look online as some are a good read. At the end of the day, it's your bulk and if you like doing it that way then thats cool. Its just not something I would advise my clients to do so wanted to point it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Stratty how come you know all this? Pls reveal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Stratty how come you know all this? Pls reveal? I am a PT and write the diet plans for the clients that want to either lose weight or bulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Adding proetin to a protein shake.. Err okay... There are many reasons why milk should be avoided but I wont go into them. Have a look online as some are a good read. At the end of the day, it's your bulk and if you like doing it that way then thats cool. Its just not something I would advise my clients to do so wanted to point it out. I too have read up on it; I know I am adding protein to a protein shake, but I don't take my gym or diet too seriously. Hence just having a huge piece of carrot cake just now! TBH I just want to be healthy. I'm not doing any competitions or anything. Cutting out all sweets and chocolate would probably do me more good than cutting out the milk, but it won't stop me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 ICutting out all sweets and chocolate would probably do me more good than cutting out the milk, but it won't stop me It's all about moderation... At the end of the day, you still want to live your life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I used to have milk with protein shakes to be honest. I just stopped as it tasted better with water and fruits and your body will thank you a lot more for the fruit than for the milk. You'll notice the difference after 2-3 weeks in your skin and hair. And if you get frozen fruit from the supermarket it'll taste like a very pricey cocktail treat (Which is what I do). And not only that, frozen fruit is very cheap indeed and you have no fear of it going off if you don't eat it fast enough. Try it martini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I thought so too. I don't drink it either though. My diet is a bodybuilding diet without bulking. Morning - 8am 2 table spoons of flaxseeds Cup of oats Cup of Spinach Cup of Strawberries/Cranberries and blueberries 1 Kiwi if I have any With water Blended - 2 pints of the above That keeps me full at about 12. Lunch at 12pm Pre-prepared from night before. Rice or potatoes with a meat dish (should be brown rice but I am too lazy and dislike the taste) With tea and cod liver & fish oil 3-4pm snack If still hungry, a high protein snack - meat/tuna sandwich or something 6pm - dinner, another potato dish with meat If I have time I make another smoothie full of oats and spinach and fruit (1.5 to 2 pints). 8-9pm A protein snack/shake. No carbs. ZMA tablets before bed at 11:30pm. Sounds hardcore but it really isnt. And much much cheaper than buying food from the work cafeteria and tesco, which is what I used to do. Only want to say that you would be better off replacing your protein shake in the evening with some good fats. A small handful of almonds or a spoon of natural peanut butter would be more beneficial. Leave the protein shakes for just after your workout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I fancy a kebab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Only want to say that you would be better off replacing your protein shake in the evening with some good fats. A small handful of almonds or a spoon of natural peanut butter would be more beneficial. Leave the protein shakes for just after your workout. Might give that a try - peanut butter in the evening sounds very appealing indeed Only issue is what to have it with - don't like having carbs after 8, and only thing I am thinking is brown bread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Im trying to stay away from this thread, as i can say alot on this subject. Trying very hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 lol - Geo. I knew you would. Pm me your suggestions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratty Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Might give that a try - peanut butter in the evening sounds very appealing indeed Only issue is what to have it with - don't like having carbs after 8, and only thing I am thinking is brown bread On it's own... I like sitting nibbling on a teaspoon full of peanut butter.. make sure it's natural peanut butter though and not Sunpak.. Whole Earth do a natural crunchy peanut butter and it is luverly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 On it's own... I like sitting nibbling on a teaspoon full of peanut butter.. make sure it's natural peanut butter though and not Sunpak.. Whole Earth do a natural crunchy peanut butter and it is luverly... I have both coincidentally and I way prefer sunpat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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