Guest Clunsey Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I know there are similar threads on here but I couldnt find one with the same symptoms. Please help, I was driving along approaching a junction when my car cut out. I lost all electrical power on the dash, as in I turned it off and back on and had no warning lights, basically the immobiliser had activated while driving. I managed to get it started after around 15 mins. Then later in the day while the car was idling it did it again and hasn't worked since. The alarm is arming and dissarming properly with all operations and indications correct just doesnt dissarm the immobiliser. I had a blitz DTT DC turbo timer fitted but that also started to play up as in turning itself on and off so I removed that but it hasnt affected the alarm as in it still wont work. Any help will be much appreciated. [sAD][/sAD] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunsey Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Anyone got any ideas or had similar problem please?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lizzy Borden Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 You have 2 immob circuits on the 606. Try swapping them over if you're only using one at the moment. This will tell you if the relay contacts, or the relay itself is Fekked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Check the terminals on the battery to see if they're tight. Has there always been no lights showing on the dash when it's immobolised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 If you know someone with the same alarm you could try swapping the units over. Just checked mine and with the immobiliser activated I still get all the warning lights etc. As suggested above it sounds more likely to be the car than the alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lizzy Borden Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Has there always been no lights showing on the dash when it's immobolised? That depends on what's immobolised. The whole ignition cct or just the start cycle. But agreed, Check the battery terminals too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunsey Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Thanks for the replys, yes when immobilised there normally isnt any ignition or warning lights on the dash, when you press the big black button then everything works as normal. However I'm pretty sure the car didnt turnover either when immobilised. I'm going to have another play with it today and see what i can figure out. The alarm people where no use at all unless I pay £150 call out charge and he probably wont be able to do anything. Keep the good ideas coming though people. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lizzy Borden Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Thanks for the replys, yes when immobilised there normally isnt any ignition or warning lights on the dash, when you press the big black button then everything works as normal. However I'm pretty sure the car didnt turnover either when immobilised. I'm going to have another play with it today and see what i can figure out. The alarm people where no use at all unless I pay £150 call out charge and he probably wont be able to do anything. Keep the good ideas coming though people. Thanks again. If everything is off when immob is on then the main cct is through the alarm. Did you fit the alarm? I'd still check the battery terminals 1st though. If the whole thing goes off it seems unlikely that the connections to the alarm are loose. (they should have been soldered on not scotchlock). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Only two circuits would of been cut and diverted through the immobiliser. Are you able to trace these two circuits and join them back together? Leave all the other wires as they are. Your immobiliser will then be isolated and if the fault is with the alarm the car should start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunsey Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 No I didnt fit the alarm, a company near Birmingham did it for the previous owner who was also a member on here. The wiring job looks like a right botch job though as was the Turbo timer which stopped working properly. I have removed the timer and am in the process of labeling up the immobiliser harness and removing that to see whether the car will start. If it works I'll post again shortly and then look into getting the alarm/immobiliser system replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The immobiliser wires coming from the alarm unit aren't colour coded, that's if you want to try and trace them. It's quite simple how they immobiliser a circuit on the car but I don't want to say too much on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lizzy Borden Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 No I didnt fit the alarm, a company near Birmingham did it for the previous owner who was also a member on here. The wiring job looks like a right botch job though as was the Turbo timer which stopped working properly. I have removed the timer and am in the process of labeling up the immobiliser harness and removing that to see whether the car will start. If it works I'll post again shortly and then look into getting the alarm/immobiliser system replaced. If you get stuck bud gimme a shout. I have install paperwork 4 these. (fitted lots of them and in the process of one just now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunsey Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Thanks Lizzy. Just about to dissconnect it now and see what happens. Will let you know shortly. If this doesnt work me and the mate are stumped!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunsey Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Right good news!! It appears the fault was only in the one immobiliser circuit, after disconnecting it completely the car starts fine. Then we connected up one side of the immobiliser and the car still works and is also immobilised still. Happy now!! I wont post on here what side of the circuit or what wires were disturbed for obvious reasons. So to some up, my car has a working Alarm and a one system immobiliser I can live with is we seem to have turned off the siren some how. Thanks again for your help people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lizzy Borden Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Right good news!! It appears the fault was only in the one immobiliser circuit, after disconnecting it completely the car starts fine. Then we connected up one side of the immobiliser and the car still works and is also immobilised still. Happy now!! I wont post on here what side of the circuit or what wires were disturbed for obvious reasons. So to some up, my car has a working Alarm and a one system immobiliser I can live with is we seem to have turned off the siren some how. Thanks again for your help people. Nice one. Do you mean the siren no longer blips when setting/unsetting. Or that it doesn't sound on alarm? You can adjust the blip to be on or off, but the alarm should still sound in an alarm condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunsey Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It doesnt bleep on unlock or lock and when i set the alarm off it doesnt work, some hoiw we have disabled the siren!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lizzy Borden Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Have you checked it's still plugged in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunsey Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 yeah the siren is plugged in in the engine bay and as far as I know my mate didnt disconnect it from the alarm control box. Do you know how you put the car in silent mode using the four button remote. I tried to find the manual on the net but couldnt get a good copy. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Do you know how you put the car in silent mode using the four button remote. If you pm me your email address I'll send you the installation and user manuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lizzy Borden Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 If you pm me your email address I'll send you the installation and user manuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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