Stratty Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Constant temperature controlled water, large amount of water area to swim in, top team of experts looking after health and feeding needs. Not quite the same is being in a natural habitat and using their basic hunting instincts is it Now, I know they are still in captivity but as far as it goes, it is not a bad gig. You said it yourself. They are in captivity. Enough said. When you think about the number of locations around the world where this type of show takes place, the numbers of different people and whales involved, the number of shows per day that take place and the number of days in a year the show happens, I don't think it is just by luck that the number of deaths of trainers by the whales is very low. Read your statement again and you may realise why people disagree with the whole situation. Proportionately, we are probably more at risk of dying behind the wheel of a Supra than the trainers are of being killed by the whales. slightly different scenario I think. And I must say, my thoughts are with Dawn Brancheau and her family. She probably died doing something she loved as much, if not more, than most people here love their Supra's. R.I.P. I agree. RIP .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrastang Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 This whale should be free and in the ocean.In this day and age we dont need zoos and safari parks,waterworlds etc.Animal museums is a better idea.All wild animals should be living naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Lot of anthropomorphising going on in this thread. 'Freedom' is a human, cultural concept and it is mistaken to project that onto animals. If the enclosure is too small, or there isn't enough variety and stimulation, or the usual social contacts are prevented, or other needs aren't been met - then, fair enough, captivity may be worse. However, if all those conditions are met, captivity shouldn't be any more stressful than living in the wild. A 'natural life' for most animals is short and unpleasant, cut short by disease, injury, exposure, starvation. If you had given our distant ancestors the choice between living in a large comfortable enclosure or roaming free as mountain spirits in the dangerous great outdoors, I think its unlikely they would have gone for the latter. ANimals are programmed by their genes to be pragmatisits, and so were we until the last few thousand years when culture took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Here's a thought - how about letting it go!! It would die, very little doubt about it. Lived its whole life in a tank. Would be kinder to kill it outright than let it stave in the wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Lot of anthropomorphising going on I'll have you know I'm a clean-living man!! Mind you, the wife is out tomorrow night, so maybe, just maybe . . . . !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I'll have you know I'm a clean-living man!! Mind you, the wife is out tomorrow night, so maybe, just maybe . . . . !! Or you could settle for a wank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden1989 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Its a freak accident, to release a captive whale into the wild after its spent most of/its whole life in a fish tank is cruel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I don't think anyone has suggested releasing any captive animals, its the concept of keeping captive animal's in the first place that most of us disagree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 here's a thought - how about letting it go!! i don't think anyone has suggested releasing any captive animals, its the concept of keeping captive animal's in the first place that most of us disagree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 For anyone who's seen the deleted scenes from Free Willy, this will come as no surprise. 12 little boys lost their lives making those films. explain please how did this mass killing happen & no one noticed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Joke fail on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden1989 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Joke fail on my part. Overall fail on your part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Joke fail on my part. Never mind cuddlybuttocks, we still love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Surely they just need to find another trainer, accidents happen, its hardly the Whales fault is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 If they were mackerel would a crowd pay a lot of money to watch someone swim and "play" with them? Of course they are dangerous, as are racing cars, boxing and sex with strangers. That's why people participate and watch, for the thrill. Not that I condone dogging.... Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Never mind cuddlybuttocks, we still love you. Awww. You just made my heart melt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Awww. You just made my heart melt. Anytime, my little pOrca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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