supra joe Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 that is huge ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I see you have gone for 11.5 rear will that still be able to give you the traction your after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Dying to see a picture of this turbo fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Dying to see a picture of this turbo fitted? am still waiting for manifold to come back.. if you want can send a pic of it in engine bay with no manifold lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 What have you had to do to the manifold? still staying single wastegate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) What have you had to do to the manifold? still staying single wastegate? had to trim it back an inch at flange and also at angle so it does not hit turret or engine bay.. bonnet will have a small lUVRE on (unless we dont use the QSV). my guys will do nice job on bonnet to make it as discreet as possible (might even have a very small vent mate to help with cooling) it will use same wastegate as before Edited May 26, 2011 by Jurgen-Jm-Imports (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'm liking the sound of the bonnet idea Jurgen. Looking forward to pics of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 You might have an issue with boost creep on such a large turbo and a single wastegate, cant keep mine under 1.7bar on the street and i have twin gates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 You might have an issue with boost creep on such a large turbo and a single wastegate, cant keep mine under 1.7bar on the street and i have twin gates. i will need to speak to andy and ryan see whay they recommend with wastegates but ANDY is/loves big power i dont think he wants a low boost setting lol.. any pics of your twin set up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'm liking the sound of the bonnet idea Jurgen. Looking forward to pics of it. going to use original bonnet (andy is a genuine toyota FRP one ) first one i have seen,. so the idea is to cut the bonnet and raise slight up and shape of the top of turbo and instead of Fibreglassing the join , maybe have a vent. i want to do it so it looks neat and tidy and OEM type look and certainly not a scoop just fitted like the boyracers in corsas do lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 any pics of your twin set up ? Best ones i can find, one sits up top and the other in the normal place, this is a full divided setup so each gate does 3 cylinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 going to use original bonnet (andy is a genuine toyota FRP one ) first one i have seen,. so the idea is to cut the bonnet and raise slight up and shape of the top of turbo and instead of Fibreglassing the join , maybe have a vent. i want to do it so it looks neat and tidy and OEM type look and certainly not a scoop just fitted like the boyracers in corsas do lol.. I hear you there mate. I've seem a few pics of this done an it does look the biz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Best ones i can find, one sits up top and the other in the normal place, this is a full divided setup so each gate does 3 cylinders. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/jamie450x/srdteaser018.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/jamie450x/tech/srdteaser027.jpg thanks looks impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Nice looking setup JP. I can see why you might have boost issues with that manifold though, the feeds to the wastegate are coming off the runners at a 90 degree angle so the exhaust flow will massively favour the direct route to the turbine housing. There's probably not much that can be done in the space available though. What springs have you got in the wastegates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I think they are .7bar springs, It makes no odds to me as im never going to be running low boost, i cant wait to turn it up in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I think they are .7bar springs, It makes no odds to me as im never going to be running low boost, i cant wait to turn it up in fact. Now that's the sort of outlook I like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 I guess for twin wastegates I'd need a different manifold???/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I guess for twin wastegates I'd need a different manifold???/ speak to ryan mate, one wastegate might be ok as your going to be wanting 1.7 bar low boost anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 i have the same manifold as jamie but im using two tial 44mm mv-r wastgates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARETT Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 You can also weld on a 2nd gate to the turbine housing direct..... With just the one gate you may struggle to keep it at 1.7 bar without any creep up top, but each manifold varies so you could be ok. It's always gonna be easier to map if the boost can be ramped in at a controlled rate though. Jurgen's been doing some top work on it by the looks of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 You can also weld on a 2nd gate to the turbine housing direct..... With just the one gate you may struggle to keep it at 1.7 bar without any creep up top, but each manifold varies so you could be ok. It's always gonna be easier to map if the boost can be ramped in at a controlled rate though. Jurgen's been doing some top work on it by the looks of things That's what I was thinking about yesterday but thought I was being stupid. If your wastegate isn't in control, then neither is your boost controller. To that end would it not mean that a lot of factors would have a bearing on the boost? Intake temperature being the big one I would have thought? Must be hard to account for that if in one scenario you have X intake temperature and the setup automatically makes 1.8bar, yet in another scenario you have Y intake temperature and the setup would automatically make 1.6bar. I guess it would only really matter if you were after progressive boost though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARETT Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Yeah IT and AT may have an effect on boost, but if the dyno cell has sufficient cooling they'll be able to recreate some sort of conditions which will be similar to the road. The mappers also have compensation maps in place to cover changes in Intake temp, Water temp even altitude in some cases, so the car stays safe in different conditions. The issue that comes up in some single gate setups is that there is way too much exhaust gas being pushed through the gate, and it will have to just stay open, the controller can't modulate the gate at all as there is just too much exhaust flowing through for the one gate. So basically the car runs as if the gate is wide open all the time, i.e maximum boost that the spring is allowing it to produce. It's not an issue if you want to run the max that the gate can produce all the time, but would be if your after progressive boost levels (which always helps when mapping) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 Thanks for this Darrett.... May be worth buying an addtional waste gate to solve this potential issue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Thanks for this Darrett.... May be worth buying an addtional waste gate to solve this potential issue.... lets try one as your wastegate is big mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprafan72 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) Update time Turbo and QSV is now on Will need to get some of the Intercooler pipes and water lines modified for the beast Also manifold has been modified so the turbo can sit on top of the QSV...Believe it or not the bonnet just shuts Edited June 9, 2011 by suprafan72 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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