MattP Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 i was in leeds today on my way back to durham when i was sideswiped by a silver honda civic 5 door i was in my citroen ax the civic came from a one way street the wrong way and hit me and then continued on his way without stopping the ax suffered a damaged driverside wing the front bumper is non existant and the driverside headlight is broken. i contacted the local police and gave them the civics reg number about 15 mins later they had arrested him at his home in headingley and after further interrogation it appears he is a polish worker with no insurance tax or M.O.T. he has a provisional drivers license and he was 4x the drink drive limit just to top it off this is the second time he has been arrested for having no insurance. all im saying is its lucky it wasnt my supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Welcome to Leeds, nice isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil-NA Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Thats not good mate, as you so though atleast it wasn't the supe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Get all the details from the police that you can, crime reference number, CAD number, driver details etc etc. Then contact your insurance company and instruct them to claim from the MIB (motor insurance bureau) You should get some compensation and it'll not effect your no claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 poor little Ax [sAD][/sAD] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 poor little Ax [sAD][/sAD] I wouldn't have thought an AX is the best car to be in a crash, aren't they made of tinfoil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 lmao they certainly are its mangled and his civic had a dented wing im sure the ax has fibreglass doors to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 it appears he is a polish worker with no insurance tax or M.O.T. he has a provisional drivers license and he was 4x the drink drive limit just to top it off this is the second time he has been arrested for having no insurance. Still, they're adding so much in other ways to the economy and community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 lol they most certainly are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Still, they're adding so much in other ways to the economy and community They do jobs lazy white british breed from council estates won't do (preffering to sponge system from dole money), so I assume, yes, we Poles ARE adding much to british economy (renting houses, paying taxes, buying food etc.). Think about all this money left behind in NI contribution by Poles who came back to their home country! It will be your retirement money, they will see none of it Change benefit system, so it MIGHT force some of the 3rd generation of your own lazy breed to work, otherwise there is no chance for this country to survive without imigrants. Community in UK? You must be laughing, it's as rare as hens teeth, unless you call local pissheads in a pub "community". I'm here 6 years now and still waiting to see some of community spirit (altough there is neighbourhood watch at my street ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 There is a big difference between someone who has moved here to make a life for themselves and who has moved here to send the money out of the country to support their families in other countries. Doesn't matter whether you are referring to Polish, Pakistani, Welsh, it is always the negative image that everyone from that place is tarred with. You need to take the chip off your shoulder bud. A lot of people would gladly work for a living in this country (of course a lot can't be bothered) but cannot compete with the people who pay no tax of any sort, no insurance, and sleep in a bus shelter or break into sheds/huts on a nightly basis in order to send as much as they can back home. They can afford to work for pennies and stay off the radar. A proper British citizen with tax and all the trimmings to pay along with a family to support just can't afford to work for that kind of money so they remain jobless. 2 sides to every coin, unless of course it is a magicians one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Paul had a go at Polish people. As far as i know (and I know it from first hand) we need to register to WRS for a first year, I do not know anyone who would avoid paying taxes (unless employer is not paying contributions and this is different story) and where on earth you got this idea of people sleeping at bus shelters or in sheds lmao! Remember that those who are sending money to Poland to support families are still paying every other costs of living in UK (tax, food, bills, rent, very often car, fuel). When I read some of those comments I do have a feeling that all the stories you are saying here are heard from mates of mates of mates, who heard it from someone who did read "The Sun" week ago. How many of you have a REAL contact with Polish people? What are you calling "that amount of money"? National minimum? Well, when times are hard, you do not moan that you need to work for 6.5/hour, you just go there and work. By sitting in the house and saying "Oh dear, how can I compete with those evil *put nationality here* who dare to work for national minimum! I will just stay on a dole then and moan" you are NOT helping this country at all, you are just additional burden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Paul had a go at Polish people. As far as i know (and I know it from first hand) we need to register to WRS for a first year, I do not know anyone who would avoid paying taxes (unless employer is not paying contributions and this is different story) and where on earth you got this idea of people sleeping at bus shelters or in sheds lmao! Remember that those who are sending money to Poland to support families are still paying every other costs of living in UK (tax, food, bills, rent, very often car, fuel). When I read some of those comments I do have a feeling that all the stories you are saying here are heard from mates of mates of mates, who heard it from someone who did read "The Sun" week ago. How many of you have a REAL contact with Polish people? What are you calling "that amount of money"? National minimum? Well, when times are hard, you do not moan that you need to work for 6.5/hour, you just go there and work. By sitting in the house and saying "Oh dear, how can I compete with those evil *put nationality here* who dare to work for national minimum! I will just stay on a dole then and moan" you are NOT helping this country at all, you are just additional burden. You are living with your head in the clouds mate, you really need to have a look around the real world if you think these things don't happen. It is not from a mate of a mate. It is from my Father in law who was a bricklayer by trade. He was considered self employed and he is a very kind and religious person. A Polish guy started working on the site for cash in hand. My Father in law felt really sorry for this guy as it turned out he had been sleeping on the job, as I said in a hut (in this case it was the portakabin) in order to send the money back to his family in Poland. He had no car & he had no outgoings. He paid no tax and as far as we are aware he had no registration whatsoever in this country. He flew over as him and his family were desperate for money. My father in law started sharing his sandwiches with him during breaks as he was not eating. It also turned out that he was getting a lot less than the national minimum. I'm not sure on the actual specifics but through labouring a minimum of 40 hours per week he was getting £100 in his hand. If he worked extra he got a little extra but nowhere near the rates that the British guys were getting paid. Again, it is a double sided coin. Employers are willing to take on cheap labour and ethnic minorities are willing to work on the cheap. This takes away our employment opportunities. I don't for one minute blame the people who come into the country to make money, they are desperate. I blame our government for allowing our industries to take advantage of the system we have in place and for not actively hounding the people on the dole to get work. What does annoy me is the people, like the guy in question, that don't follow our rules and plead ignorance at every opportunity. As far as I am concerned everyone has the right to make an honest living in this country, the operative word being honest here. Have you honestly never heard of an illegal immigrant? How do you think they get by? Do you think they register to pay tax? Britain is absolutely RIDDLED with illegal immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRALOOPY Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Konrad I'm afraid you are the exception in this row. I do agree with you on alot of things you say but I see what Paul and Scott says also on a day to day basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supracars Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Konrad I'm afraid you are the exception in this row. I do agree with you on alot of things you say but I see what Paul and Scott says also on a day to day basis. I think Polish people are great hard working people very hospitable also very pleasant to know, and i hate people that start generalising about a race beacause of a few examples. This driver just happened to be polish im sure there are thousands of other motorists doing exactly the same thing..but i dont see why the whole sleeping in sheds thing was brought about..... very unneccesary. something you will never say in a pub face to face... so why say it on here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Exactly, come here and play by our rules, simple as that. 'If' Britain is so full of spongers and the Polish are gods gift to work then why the hell do they all look to come here, I mean why is Poland not doing brilliantly with all those honest hard workers ? And yes, this is a genuine question I'd like answered. BTW, my mate had REAL contact with a Polish guy on the way to work last week. He was cut up by him in a beaten up old Mercedes and then the cheeky b*stard got out and accused him of damaging his car when he made no contact whatsoever. He was trying to make out that a large and old dent on the rear wing was caused by my mates car, no damage to his motor though.....strange that !?! No doubt out to try and scam the insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 What if the driver had been english? would we all be pontificating if it was one of our "own"? I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike3.0 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Well done for getting the Reg number so fast. And then remembering it, cool way of mind where others might have missed that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 So is it really poor bricklayer who is in fault? Or employer who wants to get more money by exploiting his lack of language skills or works law knowledge? How do you know worker was aware, that employer is NOT paying any contribution to tax office? I do stay firm on the ground my friend, I also do have good contact with a lot of polish immigrants in Wolverhampton. Most of them are doing low paid jobs, that's true, but I did not heard of a single case of exploiting any Pole in area. It MIGHT be slightly different in London, which is one massive shi*thole if you ask me, there might be also single cases in different areas of UK, but it is NOT common thing and it is NOT excuse for so many UK citizens on dole. Cut head of hydra - punish effectively employers who are milking on vunerable workers, build better immigration system to avoid so many illegals getting through (or if they get through, send them where they belong like Germans or French are doing), stop blaming immigrants for your own government failures, most of us (legal ones) are here to work, live and pay what belong to Queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I think Polish people are great hard working people very hospitable also very pleasant to know, and i hate people that start generalising about a race beacause of a few examples. This driver just happened to be polish im sure there are thousands of other motorists doing exactly the same thing..but i dont see why the whole sleeping in sheds thing was brought about..... very unneccesary. something you will never say in a pub face to face... so why say it on here?? It isn't just Polish people. You have to play on the %ages here, not the numbers. The %age of immigrants disregarding the basic law is higher than the %age of Brits doing the same. Whether it be illegal living, insurance fraud or hit and run it is absolutely rife. The reason for bringing up the sleeping in sheds was to highlight the lengths that some people are willing to go to to undercut the national minimum in order to take on work. They are willing to basically live on the street and off of handouts in order to send what little money they earn home. This guarantees them a job over a UK citizen looking to make the minimum wage. I think Poland is a wonderful place and the Polish people are generally terrific..... in Poland. In Britain, a lot of the time, a different sort tend to be found. Of course the likes of Konrad are completely different. In no way can anyone upping sticks and moving to the UK to make an honest life for themselves be even considered to have any other motives, or be any less law abiding than us. In actual fact I think I would say the opposite, honest people moving to the UK legally from other countries tend to be more law abiding and respectful than UK citizens do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 This driver just happened to be polish im sure there are thousands of other motorists doing exactly the same thing..but i dont see why the whole sleeping in sheds thing was brought about..... very unneccesary. Read Konrads posts too, generalising with the British race too mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRALOOPY Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I think Polish people are great hard working people very hospitable also very pleasant to know, and i hate people that start generalising about a race beacause of a few examples. This driver just happened to be polish im sure there are thousands of other motorists doing exactly the same thing..but i dont see why the whole sleeping in sheds thing was brought about..... very unneccesary. something you will never say in a pub face to face... so why say it on here?? I will be happy to say what I say to Konrad as I have met him:rolleyes: I to think the polish are hard working as are a majority of all genuine immigrants to this country. But why do all the immigrants want to come here?? Because of the benefit system, If I were in that situation I would try and do the same, Its down to our government to sort it not a forum.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supracars Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Exactly, come here and play by our rules, simple as that. 'If' Britain is so full of spongers and the Polish are gods gift to work then why the hell do they all look to come here, I mean why is Poland not doing brilliantly with all those honest hard workers ? of course they do play by the rules... im sure there is plenty of our own taking cash in hand jobs Poland is one of the fastest growing economies and having been over there myself i know from personal experience they are as hard working and honest as any one of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Poland is one of the fastest growing economies Yeah, because of the massive influx of UK cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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