JohnA Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I'm (trying to) change rear discs. I've moved the caliper to the side, but can't see what holds the disc into place, lol... Any ideas folks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timwildman Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 The pads on the drums might be holding them on. but i havn't a clue how to get them off. sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3xt3r Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Check your handbreak Release it and try again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 15, 2005 Author Share Posted May 15, 2005 The handrake is not pulled people, cmon, give me a break... Is there any fastener holding them in place? I can't see anything on the new discs, but then again they are not original Toyota, so you never know. Are the discs supposed to just slide off? I don't want to apply force and damage anything, you understand. The pins are another story, they just refuse to budge (that's another chapter though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3xt3r Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 When I changed my rear discs I didnt have any problems with getting them of. They just slid right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 15, 2005 Author Share Posted May 15, 2005 You changed them yourself then? With the caliper aside, is there nothing else to hold the disk in place? The manual says 'remove torque plate from backing plate' Do you know what is that? I'm kinda stuck and it's getting dark in a while, dam.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 How old are the disc's? It could be that the inner drum is quite worn and you have to wind the self adjusters on the shoes in a bit to clear the ridge on the edge. They should just pull off once the calipers out of the way. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3xt3r Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Yeah I do everything myself... Didnt use any manual so cant tell you that. But my car has jspec brakes perhabs there is something different. Everything I did was just remove the wheel, remove the caliper and then just slide it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Take the rubber gromet out and the adjuster sits under there, slacken off the shoes and then a case of working the disc free if it's still stuck. Nothing else holds it on but there could be a ridge as said before. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timwildman Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Take the rubber gromet out and the adjuster sits under there, slacken off the shoes and then a case of working the disc free if it's still stuck. Nothing else holds it on but there could be a ridge as said before. Paul Thats what I meant, didn't explane very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 15, 2005 Author Share Posted May 15, 2005 I took the grommet out, but couldn't see the adjuster --- I guess the wheel has to be rotated so that the grommet is at the bottom, right? That was not an option in my case, because the car was only raised on the rear wheel and the incline of the driveway means it's dangerours to lift both wheels. The LSD would try to turn the other wheel and "ooooops" I still wonder what these 'torque plate' and 'backing plate' are. I just saw the dust deflector. Anyway, I'll try it another time, the dark is not a nice companion for such jobs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon F Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 On the hub face of the disc, there are two threaded holes (8mm I think, but maybe 6mm). You wind two bolts into them and they will pull the disc off the hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 15, 2005 Author Share Posted May 15, 2005 maybe, just MAYBE you have a good point there Gordon. I was wondering what these holes are, lol... Good one mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 On the hub face of the disc, there are two threaded holes (8mm I think, but maybe 6mm). You wind two bolts into them and they will pull the disc off the hub What he said ... did mine a few weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 15, 2005 Author Share Posted May 15, 2005 So there is nothing else to hold the disc on the hub, as soon as the caliper is out of the way, right guys? (friction from handbrake shoes aside) What's then that 'torque plate' the manual says it has to be removed? Mine is UK, the JSpec is slightly different by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon F Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 So there is nothing else to hold the disc on the hub, as soon as the caliper is out of the way, right guys? (friction from handbrake shoes aside) Nope - that's it. The handbrake shoes are held in by a pair of pins through the backplate with springs and locking washers. These can sometimes get damaged pulling the disc/drum off. They only cost pence from Toyota, so it may be worth your while getting some spares before starting the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Forgot about the tapped holes, I did find that even with these and the adjuster loosened that I still had to jiggle them to get them off. (jiggle being a technical term ) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Like others have said, you'll probably need to wind back the handbrake adjuster. Can't remember which way to turn it, just turn it and if it tightens up then turn it the other way. By doing this you'll avoid causing any unwanted damage. Putting some bolts in the threaded holes should push the disc off nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Thanks guys, I'll get myself some (brake) shoes and try again. I guess both rear wheels need to be off the ground for this to work eh? (turn the hub so that the adjuster is visible) Not easy on an sloped driveway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I must say, I didnt need to do anything with the handbrake adjuster. I just screwed the 2 bolts in until it was "handfree". I must have been lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Not got time to read all the thread but if no one has mentioned it the hand brake shoes can hold the disk on. The unit sometimes freezes on aswell . Just put some bolts in the threaded holes, sorry cant rememeber what size, crank them up evenly, and it will pop off. Works every time thank you Mr T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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