Iraq Inquiry - anyone else watching?

[far]

Blair is on the stage

 

I must admit like him or hate him he is sh1t hot when it comes to Q&A!

[Charlotte]

I must admit like him or hate him he is sh1t hot when it comes to Q&A!

 

It's the difference between him and old Gordon. Tony is a fantastic PR person.

 

I'm just listening to a debate about it on radio2. Lots of fors and againsts.

[TopgunTT]

What channel?

[TopgunTT]

Found it.

[far]

It's the difference between him and old Gordon. Tony is a fantastic PR person.

 

I'm just listening to a debate about it on radio2. Lots of fors and againsts.

 

yes he's certainly sparkling!

 

He is raising some fair points at the moment, for example if he didnt go in back in 2002 what would the complection of 2010 look like knowing 'Sadman' had WOMD capabilities (albeit none were found!)

[stevie_b]

He is raising some fair points at the moment, for example if he didnt go in back in 2002 what would the complection of 2010 look like knowing 'Sadman' had WOMD capabilities (albeit none were found!)

That's just it. The inquiry has the benefit of hindsight, but Blair did not when he made the decision to go to war.

 

Clearly some questions need answering though, for example was Blair's decision shored up by intelligence he knew at the time to be faulty.

[Abz]

That's just it. The inquiry has the benefit of hindsight, but Blair did not when he made the decision to go to war.

 

Clearly some questions need answering though, for example was Blair's decision shored up by intelligence he knew at the time to be faulty.

The illegality aspect of this does not seem to be chased, no one will be held responsible & the original question of was this invasion legal or based on lies & theories?

 

Honestly think that if we did not go to war with Afghanistan & Iraq then Britain would not be a target country with these terrorists. We went into war because Bush's father could not finish the job he set out earlier. All these innocent civilians & soldiers who have died in vain.

 

Have to admit with the post above about Blair, he is very good at Q&A's! His very confident & has a quick & sharp response to everything, our current PM falls asleep!

[scotty71]

Blair was great at PM's questions but looking now Cameron rips GB apart and its quite comical to watch. Blair was so calm and put back some good humor the tories way

 

Scotty

[far]

Blair was great at PM's questions but looking now Cameron rips GB apart and its quite comical to watch. Blair was so calm and put back some good humor the tories way

 

Scotty

 

Yeah Cameron is pretty awesome, GB is a one eyed mumbling idiot

[scotty71]

Yeah Cameron is pretty awesome, GB is a one eyed mumbling idiot

 

lol haha this forum doesnt half give you some giggles:d

 

scotty

[deathmonkey]

Fed up of the whole thing.

 

Worked out there, got s*** on, as did everyone else, by my bosses, in 50 odd degree heat and I've lost mates because of it all.

 

Now look at Afghanistan. Brilliant.

[Paul]

I bet IMI's recording it, one of his heros

[Dave]

dont see the point of this enquiry. only to waste more public money the war is over our lads died nothing can bring them back .is iraq a better place? maybe for some .none of these people can actually tell the truth because they all signed the official secrets act .its just a media show to appease some people

[Chris Wilson]

There was a well educated Iraqy lady on breakfast TV this morning who put across the point that subsequent to our meddling they have gone from one strong and capable dictator to about 50 embattled ones each struggling for supremacy at the cost of the general populace's quality of life. Hell, when Saddam was in charge you could go on holiday there, in pretty much safety, now, as she rightly says, it's a disaster area with more corruption, violence and power struggling than when a single strong dictator held the reins.

 

My personal view is Blair is in the pockets of the Israelis and has sold us out for his own gains, financially and politically. I don't take the view this was all about oil, I think it was as much about keeping a substantial power imbalance in favour of Israel. Rather than their direct involvement they like to involve third parties using their power in the media, politics and financial institutions to buy favour. Some favour.... The attacks on the twin towers are always discussed in terms of an attack "on America". I feel the attackers saw it more as an attack on a densely populated, Jewish area of financial America. Am I wrong? Many people on the Clapham omnibus seem to agree with me, yet I never read this opinion in the media. Why's that then? I can understand the resentment from the Arab world, but they shouldn't assume that every westerner is against them, I am sure the Palestinian cause has huge sympathy from many in the west.

[Dave]

 

tony blair was bushes puppet and brown is just a muppet

[Purity14]

There was a well educated Iraqy lady on breakfast TV this morning who put across the point that subsequent to our meddling they have gone from one strong and capable dictator to about 50 embattled ones each struggling for supremacy at the cost of the general populace's quality of life. Hell, when Saddam was in charge you could go on holiday there, in pretty much safety, now, as she rightly says, it's a disaster area with more corruption, violence and power struggling than when a single strong dictator held the reins.

 

My personal view is Blair is in the pockets of the Israelis and has sold us out for his own gains, financially and politically. I don't take the view this was all about oil, I think it was as much about keeping a substantial power imbalance in favour of Israel. Rather than their direct involvement they like to involve third parties using their power in the media, politics and financial institutions to buy favour. Some favour.... The attacks on the twin towers are always discussed in terms of an attack "on America". I feel the attackers saw it more as an attack on a densely populated, Jewish area of financial America. Am I wrong? Many people on the Clapham omnibus seem to agree with me, yet I never read this opinion in the media. Why's that then? I can understand the resentment from the Arab world, but they shouldn't assume that every westerner is against them, I am sure the Palestinian cause has huge sympathy from many in the west.

QFT

Some people believe things like this are too far fetched, and that you could be going all "david eike" by making a conspiricy out of nothing.

However my opinion does include oil as a deciding factor (i.e. falklands suddenly has oil? - whooda thunk it.)

[RiceRocket]

Shame about the one minute delay thingy, wonder what we're missing?

[imi]

The illegality aspect of this does not seem to be chased, no one will be held responsible & the original question of was this invasion legal or based on lies & theories?

 

Honestly think that if we did not go to war with Afghanistan & Iraq then Britain would not be a target country with these terrorists. We went into war because Bush's father could not finish the job he set out earlier. All these innocent civilians & soldiers who have died in vain.

 

Have to admit with the post above about Blair, he is very good at Q&A's! His very confident & has a quick & sharp response to everything, our current PM falls asleep!

 

A summary of his lame interrogation can be found here

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qf680/Newsnight_29_01_2010/

 

I say lame, cause it seemed like he was very well prepared and they let him off easily, he however did admit that like bush he wanted regime change and was willing to find in his word "other arguments" to justify that?

 

Wonder who they are going for next, perhaps israel, more reason that Iraq and certainly Afghanistan anyway, however I somehow doubt that.

 

Guy just continued the work of the Crusaders......bloody murderer, he obviously is not alone in it, the lot of them are responsible and equally guilty