Homer Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 All seems to work okay, but when releasing/slipping it the clutch judders (bite - no bite - bite - no bite) at about the rpm I'd imagine the flywheel is turning. The car has been stood for around 2 years and the problem is much more noticable now than 2 years ago. THe car has driven about 1/2 a mile in all that time, though I do drive it to the end of road and back every 3 months, just to try and stop stuff seizing up. I'd imagine there's is oil/rust from on the faces from where it's been stood for so long... The reason for the question is not whether I need a new clutch, but whether this is a problem that's likely to get worse/cause the clutch to completely slip once the car goes for it's first proper journey in the not too distant future. I don't want to end up broken down somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoeBlunt Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Is there any noise coming from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Is there any noise coming from it? Nothing out of the ordinary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 might be that the release bearing is getting stuck on a bit. it may free up with use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damouk Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Have you tried pulling away with a few more revvs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Have you tried pulling away with a few more revvs? Only about 'normal' rpm's, using more the frequency of the 'judder' gets higher, but it's still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Maybe the clutch fork sticking abit? Pull the rubber boot back on the side of the box and spray some wd on the clutch fork and see what its like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Maybe the clutch fork sticking abit? Pull the rubber boot back on the side of the box and spray some wd on the clutch fork and see what its like Thanks, will take a look. Would a sticking fork cause juddering though? Once engaged the drive is fine, it's just during the bite point it judders. Thinking about it, the judder is worse the less the clutch is engaged, but gets less noticable the more it's released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Now that you say that i wonder if its flywheel face. Usualy when you get excessive juddering at the bite fingers point to the flywheel. Might of got a bit of surface rust or crap on the face of it. I had a similiar issue with my daily beater a while back and the face of the wheel had shit alover it and groves from the worn clutch and ended up replacing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Now that you say that i wonder if its flywheel face. Usualy when you get excessive juddering at the bite fingers point to the flywheel. Might of got a bit of surface rust or crap on the face of it That was what I was thinking originally (well either flywheel or clutch face issues). How do you think this would develop once the car is taken for a drive? I have no idea whether it's the sort of thing that would sort itself out after a few miles, or end up getting worse and start slipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I would of thought if its a bit of surface rust then it should clear shortly but if it doesnt then you would be favoured pulling the box and checking it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 The flywheel and pressure plate faces may be marked with rust, or the friction disc may be warped or damaged, if it doesn't clear in a few days normal usage the box and clutch will need to come out for a look see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 23, 2010 Author Share Posted September 23, 2010 Bringing this one back... The engagement has got a lot better now the car has done about 500 road miles the last couple of weeks, however it's still juddering. It's okay when the clutch pedal is low and partially enagged, it gets much worse the more the pedal is released, the last 25% or so is the worse. Giving it more RPM helps (about 2k rpm), but it doesn't go away. It's only noticable in first and reverse. It's not so bad that the car is undrivable or anything, it's just a bit annoying. Could this mean the clutch/flywheel was too far rusted to get itself bedded in again? Any ideas on what can be checked without pulling the gearbox off? I have a bad feeling Chris's last reply is going to be the answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Do a couple of hard starts with a BIT of clutch slip, let it cool for half an hour and do two more. If it still judders grab the tool box and axle stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 I had this for a short while, but after a good traffic jam a couple of days later it disappeared. I did put it into 5th, rev slightly, and slowly released and engaged the clutch a couple of times, I had the same issue on another car previously and the above fixed it. Might sound pikey, but if it works, it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 23, 2010 Author Share Posted September 23, 2010 Do a couple of hard starts with a BIT of clutch slip, let it cool for half an hour and do two more. If it still judders grab the tool box and axle stands I had this for a short while, but after a good traffic jam a couple of days later it disappeared. I did put it into 5th, rev slightly, and slowly released and engaged the clutch a couple of times I've been quite gentle with the car on starts so will give your more aggressive methods a try It seems you're both suggesting the same thing - get some serious heat and pressure on the faces and *hope* they clear themselves after a couple of heat cycles. Thanks gents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Not so much heat, but some controlled slippage to clean things up. If the driven plate's warped though, it won't do anything to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 23, 2010 Author Share Posted September 23, 2010 Not so much heat, but some controlled slippage to clean things up. If the driven plate's warped though, it won't do anything to help. Okay, thanks Chris and understood When you say driven plate, do you refer to the pressure or clutch plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 driven plate is the clutch plate "driven" by engine when the clutch is engaged. Probably old fashioned description, but there again, I AM old Good luck with it! If funds are tight I will have some good used clutch parts, but it's not ideal of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 hmm ride it to wear any damp or rust out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 hmm ride it to wear any damp or rust out of it. Thats what the man said, something you didn`t understand dummy:tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 The Millibands have arrived.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 The Millibands have arrived.... I was never in the labour party chris;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 I didn't find anywhere local to try Chris's method, so lightly rode the clutch in 5th at fairly low speed... it's enagaging MUCH better now Will give it one more go in the week and see if it goes away completely. Thanks all for the tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.