Kevin Huntley Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Hi All, I have just bought a Apexi EGT Gauge Series 2 and I was wondering where the best place is to fit the probe? Are there any instructions for mounting the probe, preferably with pictures? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 As close to the cylinders as possible. Cris Wislon has a way of fitting them without removing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 As close to the block as possible...in the exhaust manifold. The no. 6 piston (furthest towards the back) usually runs the hottest. I would place it right by piston 6 or right in the merge point for all 6. CW is quite handy at fitting them....he can at least tell you what tools to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 i had mine fitted by cw. i considered doing it myself until i had a right good look at the job. unless yr really very handy and know what yr doing it will b a complete twat to do in a place that will give meaningfull results, lots of things can go wrong, very wrong. id get cw to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Huntley Posted November 17, 2002 Author Share Posted November 17, 2002 Hi guys, thanks for the advise. I would love CW to do the job for me but it is a 500 mile round trip for me to get there and back so its just not feesible to fit the probe. I was going to get one of the lads who works in the machine shop where I work to drill and tap the exhaust manifold and then take it to local auto electritian to fit the gauges. Can anyone give me an idea of where abouts on the exhaust manifold I need to drill the hole. I know there are 6 cylinders but I have no idea how to distiguish one from another, any clues? Whats the best way to get to the exhaust manifold? and what do you have to remove to get access to it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted November 17, 2002 Share Posted November 17, 2002 Originally posted by Kevin Huntley Hi guys, thanks for the advise. I would love CW to do the job for me but it is a 500 mile round trip for me to get there and back so its just not feesible to fit the probe. I was going to get one of the lads who works in the machine shop where I work to drill and tap the exhaust manifold and then take it to local auto electritian to fit the gauges. Can anyone give me an idea of where abouts on the exhaust manifold I need to drill the hole. I know there are 6 cylinders but I have no idea how to distiguish one from another, any clues? Whats the best way to get to the exhaust manifold? and what do you have to remove to get access to it? Thanks CW has a way of stopping all the swarf from the drilling and tapping dropping into the manifold and then being ingested by the turbos. You should be very confident that whomever is doing the job knows exactly what they are doing. This is one of the reasons that many probes end up in the downpipe (which is pretty useless by all accounts) Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 Kevin, I am also gettting my Apexi EGT guage later this week and will be wanting exactly the same thing done. Same as you however, Chris is long long way to fit an EGT guage... Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 whats an ETG guage ? forgive my lack of knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 ETG = Elephant Tactical Girth EGT= Exhaust Gas Temperature, essential when you start lifting boost levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 Originally posted by Terminator ETG = Elephant Tactical Girth why did u think of this???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 this gadget is fitted to measure the temp of the gases coming out of the turbos ? or after its been through the intercoolers and going into the engine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 Originally posted by Terminator EGT= Exhaust Gas Temperature, essential when you start lifting boost levels Hmmm...I'm going to disagree with you there. If your just going to raise the boost to 17psi, a pretty safe bet all in all, I don't think it is really necessary. If your going to max out your car then I would say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 michel, it measures the temp of the burnt gasses coming out of the cylinders. its a good safety measure. there r temps u dont want to see. it can show up lean conditions (not very accurately) and detonation (again not very accurately). i think they r very useful if yr starting to mod an engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 can post a pic if you want where CW fitted mine all car is in bits at this moment. i had my EGT probe fitted by dragon autosports and the fitted it in wrong place. they put it in downpipe next to turbos, have since had it fit in correct place. let me know if you want a pic uploading its peace of mind knowing what temps you are hitting. i would say boost and egt are your main 2 gauges have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 Originally posted by eyefi why did u think of this???? I a really had a bad day at work and left my glasses in the office. Should have read Elephant Testicle Girth. I know I am crazy, just getting into my straight jacket for the night nurses to tuck me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 lol, that was funny keep yr eye on the elephant testicle guage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 18, 2002 Share Posted November 18, 2002 Originally posted by GavinL Hmmm...I'm going to disagree with you there. If your just going to raise the boost to 17psi, a pretty safe bet all in all, I don't think it is really necessary. If your going to max out your car then I would say yes. I agree Gavin, but my boost does go higher than 18psi at times, for short bursts, so the EGT helps keep and eye on temps just outside the cylinder. The warning function is most useful. It is just another peace of mind bit of kit AFAIAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Huntley Posted November 19, 2002 Author Share Posted November 19, 2002 Hi, Mark please do post so pictures up or send them to [email protected] I am having the gauges fitted on Friday and I would really like to know to mm exactly where to place this thing as I could imagine it could end up costly if I drilled the hole in the wrong place. I have read on Supraforums that you need to crank the engine or let it iddle when you are just about to break through into the manifold to get rid of any swarf, which could damage the turbo's. Is this correct? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted November 19, 2002 Share Posted November 19, 2002 Originally posted by Kevin Huntley Hi, Mark please do post so pictures up or send them to [email protected] I am having the gauges fitted on Friday and I would really like to know to mm exactly where to place this thing as I could imagine it could end up costly if I drilled the hole in the wrong place. I have read on Supraforums that you need to crank the engine or let it iddle when you are just about to break through into the manifold to get rid of any swarf, which could damage the turbo's. Is this correct? Thanks hi kevin just sending your email now.there is about 10 pics in high quality was 600k each re saved them out with no quality loss and they are less than 300k each now.and norton antivirus is checking before it sends. hope they are of use come out pretty good. have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 19, 2002 Share Posted November 19, 2002 I have an EGT guage that doubles up with my SPA boost guage. I have never had the balls to get the brass sensor drilled into me manifold so it is just hanging by my foot well and is acting as a cabin temperature gauge. I hear that it is a delicate operation and can go wrong (like plucking a splinter from ones brain using tweezers through your earhole:) ) CW would be my choice to fit but he is miles from me too! Chris can't you do a mobile service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 dudes if i ever need to drill anything and stop the swarf going down the hole i normally put a load of grease round where im drilling and drill thru it into the manifold , the grease catches the swarf . John:baa: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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