sdistc Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Very interesting race. Agree that Hamilton was too impatient and didn't finish the manoeuvre - if you compare his cornering line with that of Kubica in an identical move, Kubica left a *lot* more room on the inside.. which is why Hamilton got hit. Alonso is becoming a big threat to Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Alonso isn't going to win the championship with his lack of new engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hamilton turned into the corner with a clear track in front of him. Weber should have yeilded in my opinion. I know there is a Championship at stake but Hamilton was in front, had the racing line and Weber should have let him through. But we don't know just how hard Mark was already braking. I'd presume that as they tend to drive right on the limit, he was braking as hard as he could without locking up. In which case, what else could he do to get out of Lewis' way? Racing incident IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Oh and why is India building a track? with all the problem's they have? wouldent that money be better spent else ware:search: It's a private business, I guess they wouldn't be investing if they didn't think they could make some kind of return out of it, good for them if they can pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 But we don't know just how hard Mark was already braking. I'd presume that as they tend to drive right on the limit, he was braking as hard as he could without locking up. In which case, what else could he do to get out of Lewis' way? Racing incident IMHO He knew that Lewis was already in front. If he was along side then thats another story but Lewis was a good three quarters of a car length in front so Weber should have braked sooner to avoid a collision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 By that token, we shouldn't be hosting the Olympics... I would agree with that, we shouldn't:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 He knew that Lewis was already in front. If he was along side then thats another story but Lewis was a good three quarters of a car length in front so should have braked sooner to avoid a collision. So you're not allowed to try to outbrake someone else into a corner? Don't think so. If that was the case and overtaking was only allowed outside of a certain distance from each corner on the track, then we'd be watching even more processional races than we've seen at times in the past. Webber managed to brake enough to make the corner without going wide. When both of them arrived in the corner, Lewis was not clearly in front and turned in. I've admired Hamilton's driving for a while, and defended Lewis many times in the past. That's not to say I'm against him here - I'm not. He couldn't see Mark in his blindspot and wasn't expecting him to still be alongside, so understandably turned in. That's why I think it's simply a racing incident. It seems the stewards and Martin Brundle thought the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 So you're not allowed to try to outbrake someone else into a corner? Don't think so. If that was the case and overtaking was only allowed outside of a certain distance from each corner on the track, then we'd be watching even more processional races than we've seen at times in the past. Webber managed to brake enough to make the corner without going wide. When both of them arrived in the corner, Lewis was not clearly in front and turned in. I've admired Hamilton's driving for a while, and defended Lewis many times in the past. That's not to say I'm against him here - I'm not. He couldn't see Mark in his blindspot and wasn't expecting him to still be alongside, so understandably turned in. That's why I think it's simply a racing incident. It seems the stewards and Martin Brundle thought the same. Completely understand where you are coming from and i am not defending Hamilton any more than i am 'blaming' Weber. Put yourself in the cockpit of Webers car. Hamilton has overtaken you. Do you a) expect him to close the door as all drivers do or b) brake a bit sooner so that you avoid a potential accident that could end the race for either or both cars and try to regain the position at the next opportunity??? No-brainer for me bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 No-brainer for me bud. I'm inclined to go with the ex-F1 drivers viewpoint. Brundle, Coulthard have been there, done it, got the mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinlexusV8 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Mark had the inside line but not the racing line. Irrespective of that, even if Hamilton gave more space to Mark, there is no way for Mark to go round that corner without smashing into Hamilton. He approached it too fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Mark had the inside line but not the racing line. Irrespective of that, even if Hamilton gave more space to Mark, there is no way for Mark to go round that corner without smashing into Hamilton. He approached it too fast! No he didn't, he would have got around it fine if there hadn't been a mclaren turning into him. He was braking as hard as he could, and there was nowhere else he was able to go to avoid Hamilton. Racing incident, but Hamilton should really have left more room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Hamilton seems to have forgotten what he said after Monza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Unfortunately it was a racing incident that Hamilton could have avoided if only he'd remembered that Webber is a very hard racer and unlikely to get out of anyones way. Even Vettel had to learn that one the hard way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Bit boring today - gutted for maclaren yet again - 3 races to go and it's red bulls to lose. I wonder if webber can hang in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 If Button or Hamilton can't pull it off im seriously hoping Webber can see off Alonso and Vettel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Webber to Alonso for me - but I think it's Vettell's judging by him today. He was sensational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ferrari could have at least briefed Alonso as to why he was wearing the black band round his arm. "Err something Italian"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I liked the Leroy Jenkins reference when the audio cut out and they briefly switched to the R5 Live commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 The sound people should be shot - end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Thank god for Kobyashi, what a dull race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I missed it from when Hammi lost 3rd, doing my CBT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Basically, McLaren told him to minimise gearbox damage by not shifting below 3rd, i.e. use 4th to 7th. He was ok mostly, but lost a lot of time on the hairpin and the final chicane through lack of acceleration, around 2-3s per lap. That was it really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Korean start grid girls!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Vettal engine blowout sensational. Bits and bobs everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Felt for Webber but literally LOL'ed at Vettel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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