Whitesupraboy2 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Right call for the team, just done in the worst way possible, the best reason to use is a warning of you need to save Fuel alonso doesnt try and save where you can. We all know these cars are short fuelled so would of been seen as normal racing. However it did drop a potentially very good battle. Massa was slowing Alonso into Vettel, who was catching it could of turned into a 3 way battle for the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I don't think Alonso had to speed off, though - he knew Massa wasn't going to fight him. Looking at the final result, though. Another 5 laps and I think Vettel might have had Massa. For me, it was the right call, just done very, very wrong. Overtaking should be real though, not staged. Not going to happen in F1 though and this kind of thing is just going to keep on happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe its in Massa's contract he has to yield to Alonso? I reckon Smedley objected to the order so worded the message in such a way as to get maximum impact. After all, the teams know all transmissions are monitored... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I remember in '98 at Spa when Hill was leading Schumacher JR. Jr was faster than Hill and was obviously wanting to race for the lead. Hill got on the radio and told him "if we stay as we are we can finish 1st and 2nd. If we race, then neither of us will finish". That's how team orders should be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe its in Massa's contract he has to yield to Alonso? I reckon Smedley objected to the order so worded the message in such a way as to get maximum impact. After all, the teams know all transmissions are monitored... Have you seen Smedleys interview, looks like he values his job more than telling the truth, which i can't blame him for and i'd probably do the same but it shows how much Ferrari think of everyone else and just how stupid do you think we are. Its like lieing to your mom when you were a kid that you'd not been lighting bonfires yet you stink of smoke you know it isn't going to work but you try it anyway. I wonder what the WMSC will do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 £100,000 fine, that's just pissing in the wind. Open race fixing should carry a much stiffer penalty. There is no way they could hide Ron's radio message, "thanks mate, well done, now just stick with him." The whole of F1 was robbed of a three way race to the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 There is no way they could hide Ron's radio message, "thanks mate, well done, now just stick with him." Ron Dennis? Interfering? Sorry. Ron Smedley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Massa is apparently not a number two driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Ron Dennis? Interfering? Sorry. Ron Smedley. I think you'll find its Rob Smedley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Massa is apparently not a number two driver Makes his (according to him) desision to let Alonso past even more unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I think you'll find its Rob Smedley Indeed, but I think you'll find the 'N' & 'B' are next to each other on teh keyboard. Iz jus muckin aboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I think you'll find its Rob Smedley Try telling Terminator that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I see why the above were posted now regards Ron Dennis Ron Smedley lol Phil its Rob not Ron;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Both Red Bulls are way ahead of eveyone else, i wonder if anyone can get closer in qualifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Nope! They could probably lap the entire field in tomorrow's race unless they do the sensible thing and turn the engine down enough just to win comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 We might just see if nobody else gets in their way and neither has a mechanical issue the 2 Red Bulls racing to the finish seeing as they have no team orders and are on the same points in the drivers championship ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Restorer Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 We might just see if nobody else gets in their way and neither has a mechanical issue the 2 Red Bulls racing to the finish seeing as they have no team orders and are on the same points in the drivers championship ? They've got to try and get round all the back markers so that's going to give everyone else a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I think unless something occurs at the start the Redbulls will be long gone by the time they get to the back markers. Could still be an interesting race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I remember in '98 at Spa when Hill was leading Schumacher JR. Jr was faster than Hill and was obviously wanting to race for the lead. Hill got on the radio and told him "if we stay as we are we can finish 1st and 2nd. If we race, then neither of us will finish". That's how team orders should be done! They played this clip on the Quali show today. Hill says "Listen up chaps, I've got an idea but you'll have to pass it by Eddie". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Hamilton will be looking to move on the clean side off the start, think it's one of the longest runs to the first corner too! Should be an intresting race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Remembering Jim Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 How damn dirty was that by Schmie!!!! Should be taken out of F1 for that, there is racing and shutting the door, but that was awfully close to the wall and WAY off the racing line.... Never mind the pit incident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Absolutely, Gav. Could have been very, very nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Vettel = little cry baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Vettel = little cry baby. Yeah, he isn't he.... really got a strop on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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