JustGav Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 For me to was Smedley, always regarded him as professional, and he has just come across as a complete pillock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Mr Todt is the FIA president so i wonder what will happen Bugger all. If it were McLaren then there'd be a massive fine or disqualification no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris25 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Pretty obvious it was team orders changing the result of the race, team orders doing this are banned so the FIA must do something. The saga on the rostrum, the drivers press conferance and the team prinicipals interview are insulting our intelligence. Ferrari yet again shoot themselves in the foot and in my opinion both cars should be removed from the results Mr Todt is the FIA president so i wonder what will happen :yehthat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris25 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Ediie Jordan for FIA president imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 JohnnyG will be delighted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 They all have team orders. Some more blatant than others. Thye teams are there for their own ends, and Ferrari think Alonso is more likely to deliver. Everybody knows who the number 1 and 2 drivers are in the teams and this system of favourtism will always be there regardless of rules and regs. It is frustrating to see but what team would like to see a repeat of the red bull incident purely for the publics enjoyment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Forgot that Mr. Todt was president. Thats it then, all swept under a big red carpet. (With a prancing horse on it no doubt!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 It is frustrating to see but what team would like to see a repeat of the red bull incident purely for the publics enjoyment? How about the McLaren wheel to wheel racing after said incident?? Racing is racing - making it a precession puts people off watching it. See Bahrain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Ferrari bosses have been called in front of the stewards to explain themselves. What would you do if you were the Stewards? Personally, I'd tell Ferrari that I'm reversing the 1st and 2nd finishing positions - and if they disagree I'd strip the team of the constructors points. Yet again Ferrari have shown their true colours. Remember 2 races ago with Hamiltons drive-through? "Ferrari always play to the rules and it's disgusting when other teams don't." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Smedleys interview is laughable I feel for him though as he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. i'd have thought goodbye job if he tells the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 How about the McLaren wheel to wheel racing after said incident?? Racing is racing - making it a precession puts people off watching it. See Bahrain. They then had the orders to "save fuel" IIRC and both backed off Umm i don't know how many races you have seen this season but it is already a precession Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Backing off is one thing, changing the result is another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Ferrari fined $100,000 but result stands http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8852918.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 You've got to hand it to Alonso though. Literally if you're Massa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Ferrari fined $100,000 but result stands http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8852918.stm What they did was wrong according to the rules, but it wouldn't have affect the result if the 1-2 order was reversed. Team orders do happen, that is obvious, and I suppose in a weird way at least they were pretty upfront about it, just a shame they are all fibbing post race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris25 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 its like politicians though, if you say something straight up you will get took to pieces by the press. You have to do that pathetic wishy washy excuse speech after youve done something you shouldnt have. If you dont confess someone has to prove you have done something, its how the justice system works unfortunately. innocent until proven guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 This could have all been avoided if Smedley had sent the right message, something like "Felipe, Fernando is quicker" - then leave it at that. But, he said it like he almost wanted everyone to blatently know what was going on. If I were Domenicalli or DiMontezemelo, then I'd be pretty annoyed at Smedley. Glad to see Alonso on the top step, but not under these circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Hope Alonso doesn't win the title after this pathetic excuse for a race,he behaves like a spoilt child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Watch Massa's interview, what a joke, i dont know any racing driver that would pull over to let a rival drive past at any level. Very sad day again for motorsport. Ferrari have lost any respect i once had for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 What about Red Bull with front wing-gate? McLaren with letting Hamilton through at Nurburgring 2008? Ferrari again with Kimi and Felipe back in 2008 (I think?). The real crime is how they did it. Smedley has not done any himself any favours there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I agree but this is about what happened today, lie after lie after lie, and to think they have the nerve to jump up and down when they think someone else has messed up or isnt playing by the rules. One word somes them up, Hypocrites ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 At least an Alonso win works in favour of the marshals. They can go home early instead of being there all night picking up all the toys he would have thrown out of his pram had he had to have come second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinboy Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Just stayed up to watch this on iplayer - another step back for F1. There's so much money in the sport that nobody can say what they mean without getting there ass sued seven times til tuesday. I really am beginning to believe that EJ is the Geoffrey Boycott of F1 - I don't like him but he knows his stuff. "Disgraceful". Good to see the McLaren boys still at the top though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I could see DCs point that it will happen and is part of the sport so why not get rid of the rule. But then as Christian Horner was saying they let the two race and it seems like they're one of the ones that doesn't issue team orders. They favour one driver as we've seen but don't take that into the race itself. I don't know why Massa didn't just say 'OK I better speed up a bit then' and carry on where he was! It wasn't like Alonsa sped off into the distance after he went past! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I could see DCs point that it will happen and is part of the sport so why not get rid of the rule. But then as Christian Horner was saying they let the two race and it seems like they're one of the ones that doesn't issue team orders. They favour one driver as we've seen but don't take that into the race itself. I don't know why Massa didn't just say 'OK I better speed up a bit then' and carry on where he was! It wasn't like Alonsa sped off into the distance after he went past! I don't think Alonso had to speed off, though - he knew Massa wasn't going to fight him. Looking at the final result, though. Another 5 laps and I think Vettel might have had Massa. For me, it was the right call, just done very, very wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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