mathew Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'l try and keep this as short as poss. Im currently serving my redundancy notice in work and have 3 weeks left. its been a messy process with an appeal happening in 2 weeks time regarding the scoring and a few other bits and pieces. I had an answer phone message today informing me that for the next 3 weeks il be based on a different site to where i am now. this particular site i am going to tomorrow is run by the guy who carried out the scoring and basically f**ked me over. This guys argument during the scoring was that i was employed as a bricklayer (even though for the last 3 years ive been doing a supervisors/manager's role) and therefor was scored as a bricklayer which meant various issues not being taken into consideration regarding my score. Now i know the site im heading to is almost complete and requires zero blocks or bricks layed. theyve thrown as many guys at it as possible to get it completed before xmas. So with this in mind do i become an awkward bugger for the next 3 weeks and insist that the only work im going to carry out will be that which is related to my job role as it was this site manager who kept pressing this issue during the scoring period or do i still give 100% to the company that have treated me as badly as they have for the last few months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'd carry on doing what they want, it makes your case stronger for the appeal. Especially so if you make a record of what you do and how it differs from a bricklaying role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Work as hard as you can, when I was told I was to be let go I kept my chin up and worked as hard as I could through the short notice period, I was called back 2 weeks later and have been employed with them for over a year since, I have just been offered a further 1.5-2 years maybe longer, if it does not pay off you leave with your pride intact and you never know you may get that call back when things pick up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I think that, as hard as it will be, you should continue as you were. But smile knowingly when he asks you to do anything other than lay a brick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'd be an awkward bugger Nothing will help with the appeal as all these companies have it all their way as long as they've stuck to the basics:( I went through 3 scoring appeals, laughable, all of them and then went for the official appeal with the top boss, again it was laughable and all my reasonable arguements and questions were clearly ignored throughout. Next step was via the full time union rep, they suggested I had been cheated in the process and supported me by engaging their employment solicitors in the case. Took weeks to finally hear from them and they said that although they were very unhappy with the process they didn't think it was a clear win in a tribunal so they and the union pulled out ! Waste of time keeping them sweet in the hope that they will listen in an appeal , firms can twist anything to get you out and unless it's an error in proceedure then they are home and dry. Yes I'm bitter but have now moved on, something better and a new start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Never burn bridges, you may need to cross them one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Cheers for the input so far guys. taking all the input on board i think it will be best for me to bite my tongue, despite how hard its going to be as im a pretty out spoken person. paul - ive got my appeal on the 7th december accompanied with the union rep. according to him he hasnt seen a scoring system as subjective/corrupt in his career. its turned out that there is so much to appeal against that he is limiting it to just appealing the scoring in the first appeal but making it clear to them what will be appealed if it goes forward to a tribunal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 paul - ive got my appeal on the 7th december accompanied with the union rep. according to him he hasnt seen a scoring system as subjective/corrupt in his career. its turned out that there is so much to appeal against that he is limiting it to just appealing the scoring in the first appeal but making it clear to them what will be appealed if it goes forward to a tribunal. Good luck mate My scoring was very subjective with inaccurate comments and I provided evidence to prove my points. Also had errors made but then 'corrected' along the way, my whole case was a stitch up but my Solicitors said that tribunals are only interested awarding in straight forward 'simple' cases and rarely want to look into depth at issues Needless to say I'm dissapointed and having supported Unions all my working life i now feel they are powerless to do much for the honest working bloke Keep us updated and hope you turn the decision or tuck them up for a few quid. (bit of advice though, don't let it chew you up and don't get obsessed with getting back at them, I nearly fell into that trap !!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Never burn bridges, you may need to cross them one day. Good advice in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'd carry on doing what they want, it makes your case stronger for the appeal. Especially so if you make a record of what you do and how it differs from a bricklaying role. Work as hard as you can, when I was told I was to be let go I kept my chin up and worked as hard as I could through the short notice period, I was called back 2 weeks later and have been employed with them for over a year since, I have just been offered a further 1.5-2 years maybe longer, if it does not pay off you leave with your pride intact and you never know you may get that call back when things pick up Never burn bridges, you may need to cross them one day. All the advise above is spot on! I'd agree with them all. (bit of advice though, don't let it chew you up and don't get obsessed with getting back at them, I nearly fell into that trap !!) This will be one of the hardest parts. Hope it works out for you Matthew, if it doesn't then don't let it get you down. Look at Paul, his loving being dropped from his old place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'd jizz in my pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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