The Raven Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Dear god................... Brocks done with UFC due to illness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Blimey when is his next fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Dear god................... Brocks done with UFC due to illness Where did you read/see that? I knew he wasn't well but I didn't think he was finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmoreta Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 you must be 100% insane to fight against this guy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hes a animal and huge, this is one fighter to keep an eye on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Ill find out when his next fight is i have a few friends in poland ill let you know. He's a BIG brawler once he starts unloading the guy just curls up to be honest i dont blame him. Those leg kicks had serious power behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Well interested to see his next fight, just to see the look on the blokes face when he starts hammering down on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I hope his next fight lasts a bit longer i would be nice to see if he actualy has some skill rather than pure power. Although the power in the man is outstanding his training videos are something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 PQ-bnSLuX9M Wow, that girl at 2m 52s is fine! You can't tell if Pudzianowski from this fight. The other guy didn't offer much resistance or defence. I'd take Mir or someone experienced like that to beat him in the UFC I did a search about Lesnar. Apparently he's got diverticulitis. http://www.tsn.ca/mma/story/?id=301858 Nasty stuff. My best mate was very ill with that for a long time. It's very unpleasant. I don't wish ill on Lesnar but I'd be happy if he never fought in the UFC again. I hate people show-bizzing it up and destroying any credibility it had built up. People will never take MMA seriously as long as fighters are doing the fake pre and post fight ranting, and the other BS that comes with pro-wrestling. I don't mean that wrestlers are the only ones demeaning UFC but their 'showmanship' style typifies everything that hate about the fight game. Guys like Forrest, Mir and Randy Couture are what the UFC should be, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I would say you wont get him in a submission his brute strength will get him out it. I think it will be a special guy to put him to the test. Not sure Mir is the one for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgeer Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I think he will come unstuck against a good jiu jitsu fighter, much like lesnar did against Frank Mir in his first fight. If he learns a ground game he will be unstoppable but it must be hard for a man on mariusz's size to maintain that level of aggression for more than a round or two without tiring, It's very interesting though. Would love to see him fight a decent heavyweight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I think he will come unstuck against a good jiu jitsu fighter, much like lesnar did against Frank Mir in his first fight. If he learns a ground game he will be unstoppable but it must be hard for a man on mariusz's size to maintain that level of aggression for more than a round or two without tiring, It's very interesting though. Would love to see him fight a decent heavyweight No doubt he will tire i cant wait to see him fight a more experienced fighter i think it will take a heavyweight in ufc to put him to the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Working youtube clip again. I'm still laughing a lot -fFg9cKo25c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I would say you wont get him in a submission his brute strength will get him out it. I think it will be a special guy to put him to the test. Not sure Mir is the one for it. Lesnar thought that before their first fight. Mir submitted hm inside 2mins though. UFC experience counts for a lot more than Lesnar expected. Of course, Lesnar has more of it now. I'm not saying this polish guy isn't good, you just cant tell from the clip above because the other guy is so poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Lesnar thought that before their first fight. Mir submitted hm inside 2mins though. UFC experience counts for a lot more than Lesnar expected. Of course, Lesnar has more of it now. I'm not saying this polish guy isn't good, you just cant tell from the clip above because the other guy is so poor. I agree with both of you on this. I'm pretty sure noone would be able to get an arm bar on him due to his strength. Ankle locks etc I can't see him getting out of. Submission above the waist I think will be hard on the big man, other than a choke. Under the waist there shouldn't be much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilicos Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I would say you wont get him in a submission his brute strength will get him out it. I think it will be a special guy to put him to the test. Not sure Mir is the one for it. I agree totally. Mir's legs would not stand up to sweeping kicks like that. They would just snap again. Also, trying to get your legs over his chest and pull over for an arm bar would be inpossible with his power. I think jiu jitsu/ wrestling would be futile, you need someone fast, strong and with good boxing skills to wear him down. A very long reach would be the main advantage. I have fought guys with immense power and my jiu jitsu was a waste of time. Always tried to turn to my kick boxing to buy my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I agree totally. Mir's legs would not stand up to sweeping kicks like that. They would just snap again. Also, trying to get your legs over his chest and pull over for an arm bar would be inpossible with his power. I think jiu jitsu/ wrestling would be futile, you need someone fast, strong and with good boxing skills to wear him down. A very long reach would be the main advantage. I have fought guys with immense power and my jiu jitsu was a waste of time. Always tried to turn to my kick boxing to buy my time. Even in a stand up fight though when the big man explodes he will just throw his opponent around the ring. If his next opponent gets through 2 rounds i think they will stand a chance of wearing the big man down but inside that i think he will beat the best of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Where did you read/see that? I knew he wasn't well but I didn't think he was finished. Mr White would not comment on his illness but the word is its possible Hep c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Mr White would not comment on his illness but the word is its possible Hep c Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Mr White would not comment on his illness but the word is its possible Hep c Again, where are you reading this? I'm still none the wiser as to the source. I know that Dana isn't commenting on it but everything I read says its an intestine problem and that there is a possibility he may not recover. I always read into comments like that as sales though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandiaerbest Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I honestly believe that Fedor could beat this guy, fighting is more about skill then power, and Fedor has some very good boxing skills and one of the best submission skills. Mariuz would beat Lesner though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I honestly believe that Fedor could beat this guy, fighting is more about skill then power, and Fedor has some very good boxing skills and one of the best submission skills. Mariuz would beat Lesner though. Having watched 20 ish Fedor fights, I would not put money on Fedor to win against any top fighters (i.e. none of the current amatuers in Strikefarce). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandiaerbest Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Having watched 20 ish Fedor fights, I would not put money on Fedor to win against any top fighters (i.e. none of the current amatuers in Strikefarce). I respect your opinion. but i disagree, if you look at the heavyweigt divsion in the UFC, it is pretty much a joke. Lesner has not beaten any good fighters in my opinion, and Fedor has beaten about 5 former UFC Champs. I find it sad that people don't respect Fedor enough, all the top experts like Bas Rutten say Fedor is the best pound for pound fighter in the world and some of them even say he is the best fighter ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I respect your opinion. but i disagree, if you look at the heavyweigt divsion in the UFC, it is pretty much a joke. Lesner has not beaten any good fighters in my opinion, and Fedor has beaten about 5 former UFC Champs. I find it sad that people don't respect Fedor enough, all the top experts like Bas Rutten say Fedor is the best pound for pound fighter in the world and some of them even say he is the best fighter ever. Are these experts from the same country as said fighter? I don't think anyone could handle Lesnar in his prime. He is completely different from when he first started. If he gets better I think he will be a real force to be reckoned with. Fedor is absolutely fantastic, I just don't know if he would have enough to deal with a powerhouse like Lesnar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Lol Bas Rutten and respect in the same sentence. I do respect Fedor he has not got 1 loss to his name for nothing (and if people think it was not a loss, they are retarded. Winning is winning in any sport). For me Fedor record is in past tense, sure he has beaten a lot of top guys years ago. But what is he doing now???? He is hiding behind Strikefarce and facing a by far a weaker heavyweight devision that what the UFC has. I admit it, I am a Brock fan, hated him in WWE. But I like the underdogs and hopefully if he comes back that will be it. He has shown how well a fighter can improve in such a short space of time i.e. Mir fight one to Mir part 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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