stevie_b Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 That's interesting. I wonder if I'm missing something. What parts did you find funny or amazing? So much of what they do seems to be scripted that I now don't believe hardly anything I see on the program. Do we believe they really slept in their cars? Do we believe that May's crappy car (Senderos or somesuch?) was accidentally reversed into? Or that May really had a shunt in the black Lambo in Romania? Or that green Stig needed medical treatment because the chminey came off the generator? etc etc. I didn't see most of the latest episode, and from what Jake's written I'm glad I didn't. God that sounds dire. It reminds me of Men Behaving Badly. I half expect Neil Morrissey to pop up in one of TG's skits. I don't know what Top Gear would have to do to really drive viewers away. We (myself included) seem to be a very forgiving lot. Or maybe there's plenty of people out there who genuinely enjoy Top Gear still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Plethora Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 TG is still a great show, yes the jokes are quite heavily scripted but the three of them work so well together. The only bit I really have to turn over for is the star in the reasonably priced car bit, completely pointless rubbish where a Z list celeb plugs their new book, lasts about 10 minutes as well. I love never mind the buzzcocks but their 'intros round' where they hum out a song has me reaching for the remote also. I would like to see some older cars on there though, not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. One of the best ones they did I think is when they had some sort of people carrier try to equal an evo around their track and they were changing the brakes and adding other mods, genuinely interesting stuff or where they had the old aston DB5 and they put modern suspension etc on it and compared the times, the nitrous jaguar etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 One of the best ones they did I think is when they had some sort of people carrier try to equal an evo around their track and they were changing the brakes and adding other mods, genuinely interesting stuff Was this a recent episode? I can't have watched that one, but it sounds like another example of these tests where they could take it one of two ways: 1) Make semi-genuine attempts to fit performance parts to the people carrier to see what difference it would make; or 2) Clarkson sticks on go-faster decals down the side of the people carrier whilst Hammond spot-welds a piece of scrap metal to the rear roof to make a spoiler in an A-Team van style. May allegedly spends all day fitting a K&N air filter, during which Clarkson draws a knob on the back of his jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm pleased that I recorded it, I fast forwarded through most of it. The electric car which the three presenters didn't build wasn't in the least bit interesting or enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I didn't see most of the latest episode, and from what Jake's written I'm glad I didn't. God that sounds dire. It reminds me of Men Behaving Badly. I half expect Neil Morrissey to pop up in one of TG's skits. I don't know what Top Gear would have to do to really drive viewers away. We (myself included) seem to be a very forgiving lot. Or maybe there's plenty of people out there who genuinely enjoy Top Gear still. There are loads of folks who love it. PistonHeads has got loads of guys proclaiming the last episode as the best ever and plenty of "OMG I've never laughed so much" type comments. I'm genuinely interested to know whether folks can't see the almost complete fakeness of TG or whether they just don't care. I watch it cos there's nothing else on that's better (obviously) - but I wouldn't stay in especially to see it. I missed loads of the last series because I just couldnt be bothered to watch it, even though I have Sky+. The only bit I really have to turn over for is the star in the reasonably priced car bit, completely pointless rubbish where a Z list celeb plugs their new book, lasts about 10 minutes as well. Yeah, that part is a blatant 'Filler'. Apparently it's the part they cut out when they (BBC) sell the show to all the other countries, so they can fit their advert breaks in. I love never mind the buzzcocks but their 'intros round' where they hum out a song has me reaching for the remote also. ha! That's my favourite bit! Just goes to show that we're all different I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 One of the best ones they did I think is when they had some sort of people carrier try to equal an evo around their track and they were changing the brakes and adding other mods, genuinely interesting stuff Again though (and I'm not trying to argue with you or prove you wrong mate) I thought that one was rubbish too. It was a Renault something ('Vel Satis' or somesuch) - right? They were supposedly trying to mod the car to make it faster, weren't they? But actually the whole piece was really trying to prove that modding a car makes it slower. And the car magically suddenly had an expensive aftermarket exhaust, which was unmentioned and not allowed for in their 'strict budget'. And if I remember right didn't they put a F1 car's massive rear spoiler on the people carrier 'to make it faster' as well? It might have been fitted back to front as well, I forget now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 It wouldn't have surprised me if they'd have said the people carrier won either. I remember some feature on a Range Rover Overfinch where they supposedly did a drag race with the Overfinch off road at the side of the run way and some other car on the runway itself. The official 0-60 time for the Overfinch was slower than the other car, yet even though it was racing off road it still won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Found it on YouTube, it was a Renault Avantime not a Vel Satis ... [YouTube]Ii_117eccaY[/YouTube] [YouTube]BoojW1g7D_s[/YouTube] [YouTube]55_8Cn1nsuc[/YouTube] What a load of tosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm with Jake on this, you can't believe anything they say any more so it's not a car review programme any more. I would never trust any of their input when looking at a car now cos it's all made up for the show. I would like to see some older cars on there though, not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. Oh god no, I much prefer the car porn. It'd get boring very quickly if they were doing 'proper' road tests of the latest Polo saying how comfy the headrests are!! I want loud, fast, expensive and pointless for the whole hour. I want to see cars I'll never be able to afford, being torn around the track at great speed. There are plenty of review sites on the net, and there are other programmes that deal with the mundane. Top Gear should stay in top gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I agree, its entertainment, plenty of other sources for road tests etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Top Gear needs to be more of a motoring magazine on TV again (and not crappy Top Gear Magazine), go back to being Autocar with moving images rather than Last of the Summer Wine with cars. Great links and well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I would never trust any of their input when looking at a car now cos it's all made up for the show..... and the worst thing about TG is when people claim Clarkson's rants as their own opinion. Like all the people suddenly deciding that Audi drivers are all cocks - you never heard that generalisation before Clarkson started on about it. (Still, it took the heat off us Beemer Tossers a bit). Some chap on PH said he wouldn't have a Chrysler Crossfire because he though it "looked like a dog having a poo" - exactly what JC said in his review of the Crossfire. And the other people that will tell you how the new shape Civic Type R is rubbish - even though they've never driven one. He's got far too much power that guy. He can make or break a car's sales in this country. I bet he gets some nice backh^H^H^H^H^H errr hospitality from car companies. Nice work if you can get it. Lucky Git. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 .... and the worst thing about TG is when people claim Clarkson's rants as their own opinion. Completely agree, although I'd expand the Audi theory to pretty much any current, modern, euro-diesel barge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 And the other people that will tell you how the new shape Civic Type R is rubbish - even though they've never driven one. I love the type R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Pffft. They're rubbish. Everyone knows that. POW-ARRRRRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I think Clarkson single handedly destroyed MG-Rover TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 .... and the worst thing about TG is when people claim Clarkson's rants as their own opinion. Like all the people suddenly deciding that Audi drivers are all cocks - you never heard that generalisation before Clarkson started on about it. (Still, it took the heat off us Beemer Tossers a bit). I'd disagree with that tbh. For a long time before TG started on it I was noticing how all the new shape Audis seemed to be driven very aggressively and were taking the mantle from BMW. Oddly I drive our new Audi far worse than I do in the old one, I am infected with the cock now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harps Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 .... and the worst thing about TG is when people claim Clarkson's rants as their own opinion. Like all the people suddenly deciding that Audi drivers are all cocks - you never heard that generalisation before Clarkson started on about it. (Still, it took the heat off us Beemer Tossers a bit). Some chap on PH said he wouldn't have a Chrysler Crossfire because he though it "looked like a dog having a poo" - exactly what JC said in his review of the Crossfire. And the other people that will tell you how the new shape Civic Type R is rubbish - even though they've never driven one. He's got far too much power that guy. He can make or break a car's sales in this country. I bet he gets some nice backh^H^H^H^H^H errr hospitality from car companies. Nice work if you can get it. Lucky Git. You can't blame TG for other people quoting it. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Its the best form of escapism on TV for me, no typical bullshit just pure entertainment. I don't watch it for serious car reviews, and in fact Clarkson hated my current daily drive but it doesn't stop me having my own opinion on my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I love the type R I've driven the new one and it is not as rubbish as they make it out to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 ....I am infected with the cock now. You should go see a doctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I am infected with the cock now. Does that mean you're now gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 You can't blame TG for other people quoting it. I didn't. I blame the people that don't have the wit to form their own opinions. It's still a bad thing about the programme though. Its the best form of escapism on TV for me, no typical bullshit just pure entertainment.No bullshit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harps Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Read my message again no typical bullshit The important word there is typical. its still a bad thing about the programme though. No, its a bad thing about the people you converse with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 What would you class as typical bullshit then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harps Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 X-Factor, Strictly Come Dancing, Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here. The programmes that TV is generally clogged up with. Even if you don't like it, you can't say its not unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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