pistonbroke Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Put yourself in this guys position, two guys break into your mothers house while you're at home. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-charged-with-murder-of-burglar-1810253.html What would you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I would have lost my rag, no doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Put yourself in this guys position, two guys break into your mothers house while you're at home. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-charged-with-murder-of-burglar-1810253.html What would you do? Give him a medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Yeah, read that one a couple of days ago. Think he was let off originally...Was he heralded as a hero in his town? Well there's obviously a limit to what is reasonable force. But In my opinion, if you break into someone's house, you leave your civil and human rights at the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Yeah, read that one a couple of days ago. Think he was let off originally...Was he heralded as a hero in his town? Well there's obviously a limit to what is reasonable force. But In my opinion, if you break into someone's house, you leave your civil and human rights at the door. One thing the Americans have got right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Yeah, read that one a couple of days ago. Think he was let off originally...Was he heralded as a hero in his town? Well there's obviously a limit to what is reasonable force. But In my opinion, if you break into someone's house, you leave your civil and human rights at the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I would have knocked 10 shades of shit out of both of them. I would make sure they lived though, the law has always been against justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 He killed the guy tho.................. There's a limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Do we know what originally happened, did he confront them and they said 'Oops, we're sorry we will just hang around for the Police' and then he stabbed them. Or did he disturb them and they attacked him? Or somewhere in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 He killed the guy tho.................. There's a limit. Is there? If he hadn't broken into the house he wouldn't have been killed. No sympathy whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 There's a limit. Unfortuneatly. I think I'm slightly biased though, as I've seen a the picture of one of the guys he killed in the paper and he looked like a right scum-bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Here he is.. One ugly mother! Don't click if you're eating your tea! Don't worry too much though, it's not like it's a picture of RedM http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/TylerRAYMONDS_450x418.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlton Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I wouldn't of bought a knife to confront them, I have an genuine African tribe bashing stick that I would of bought down to introduce to them and show them how it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I wouldn't of bought a knife to confront them, I have an genuine African tribe bashing stick that I would of bought down to introduce to them and show them how it works You would have discussed your penis with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Don't worry too much though, it's not like it's a picture of RedM Quoting simply for the reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Just like saying burglary should have the death sentance IMO. Granted the boy deserves a bit of a kick-in but not killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Just like saying burglary should have the death sentance IMO. Granted the boy deserves a bit of a kick-in but not killed I agree, but as I said before, what did they do when confronted? Attack the guy or try to run, that also makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Why should he confront two (potentially armed) people in his own home unarmed? I'm surpised he didn't get charged with not offering them a cup of tea and a bourbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Personally I'd see it as self defence. Looking at the picture of the guy, he does not look like someone who would say "Ops, sorry dear did not know you was home, I'll see myself out..." In that situation adrenline is rushing through your body, like animals our body\mind is thinking its being attacked in its territory. I assume he did not planning on killing the guy but to more warn him off. If it was me, I most likely would have taken him out. Knock the shit of them, call the police and keep knocking the shit out of them until they arrive. When they do arrive, I'll let one of them take a cheap shot at me and then go down like a premiership footballer in front of the rozzers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 It is impossible to say what any of us would have done in the circumstances as we were not there. Like wise it would be impossible to second guess the intruders intentions. They might me nice boys just getting funds for a crack hit, or a night on White lightning. On the other hand they might have been a couple of twisted little bastards who wanted rape his mother to watch some one die. How the hell do you determine what is reasonable force when you don't have the benefit of hindsight. I really feel for this guy and his mother, I have no sympathy for the "burglars". This will come down to the word of a scum bag and the guy who killed his friend. I think I know which one I would believe. Killing the little shit, on the face of it, was going a bit far, but we don't know what went on before hand or the events that led up to him being stabbed. I hope he gets off or the murder charge is at east dropped to manslaughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 After seeing crimewatch last night im glad another waste of space has been taken off the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Just like saying burglary should have the death sentance IMO. What a great idea! It would clear our over crowded prisons and get scumbags off the street permanently. And before anyone asks. Yes I am serious. If you know what the punishment is before you do the crime then you can't complain when you get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DODGYDODDS Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Dont think i would of stabbed them, Would of definately beat the shit out of both of them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Quoting simply for the reaction. You needn't have bothered. I only take notice of insults that meet or exceed a certain quality threshold. The garbled, incoherent ramblings of Matt H always fall well short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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