Charlotte Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 That's why you qualify for the racoon plan. I am quite frankly shocked. Where can I complain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I am quite frankly shocked. Where can I complain? You'll have to badger their customer catisfaction departphant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I am quite frankly shocked. Where can I complain? Orange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Orange? With or without bits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 This "outrage" highlights Britains issue with racism. It isn't a problem, until someone makes it a problem. The "Anti-racists" are becoming racists themselves, you won't be allowed black coffee soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 This "outrage" highlights Britains issue with racism. It isn't a problem, until someone makes it a problem. The "Anti-racists" are becoming racists themselves, you won't be allowed black coffee soon. I think you mean ethnic coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 This "outrage" highlights Britains issue with racism. It isn't a problem, until someone makes it a problem. The "Anti-racists" are becoming racists themselves, you won't be allowed black coffee soon. I disagree. I think you're making something out of nothing. The BNP are racist. Saying someone is black isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I disagree. I think you're making something out of nothing. The BNP are racist. Saying someone is black isn't. But they did change their policy to let all ethic groups join, so they aren't actually racist anymore. They're facist IMO, but that's different. I don't think that kind of sweeping generalisation helps anything, and I think you've actually proved Scott's point in a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 The BNP are racist. Saying someone is black isn't. Thats my point bud Getting a bit tangled up by ideas of racism. Having a picture of a black person with the word "Monkey" underneath them isn't racist is it? Of course not, but if someone with nothing better to do decides to see it that way then we have a big bandwagon that all the "anti-racist" folks can jump on. Its a farce, the whole lot of it. Chavist will be out soon. Its not about colour anymore, its all about the 'ists'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 It is ironic that the one's who see racism everywhere are actually the racists and the ones who walk by without batting an eyelid are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think you mean ethnic coffee. Aye, then you'll go down the beach and get your kids and bucket and ethnic, etc ... it's going to spiral out of control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 But they did change their policy to let all ethic groups join, so they aren't actually racist anymore. They're facist IMO, but that's different. I don't think that kind of sweeping generalisation helps anything, and I think you've actually proved Scott's point in a way. I agree, but show me a facist party that isn't racist The BNP have had a 'I've changed my mind' moment, and I still think their 'every last one will go' approach to politics willl always be there. How have I proved Scotts point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 It is ironic that the one's who see racism everywhere are actually the racists and the ones who walk by without batting an eyelid are not. Thats been the main problem for a while now. It has to be pointed out for anyone to even notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 How have I proved Scotts point? You seemed to have misunderstood what I was saying. I don't think there is any issue at all with that poster. The issue is being made by people looking for things to point out as "racist". My comment on coffee showed this. Black coffee is obviously not racist but it's getting so petty now that I was suggesting it's on the list of things to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 You seemed to have misunderstood what I was saying. I don't think there is any issue at all with that poster. The issue is being made by people looking for things to point out as "racist". My comment on coffee showed this. Black coffee is obviously not racist but it's getting so petty now that I was suggesting it's on the list of things to look at. Oh, I see.. I thought you were being serious I don't know if anyone has seen it but there is a cracking Spike Lee film called Do The Right Thing (from way back in the late 80's) that deals with all manner of racial issues. Spike Lee is the main character and his name in the film is (ironically) Mookie - as in Monkey, as per this thread. Check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I agree, but show me a facist party that isn't racist Feminists. EDIT: oh, and Greenpeace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't think there is any issue at all with that poster. The issue is being made by people looking for things to point out as "racist". Absolutely agree. I think many people "want" to be offended by things, in a subconscious way. It's as if being offended gives them a purpose, something to fight against. It sounds wacky, and people won't admit to it, but I reckon it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 But they did change their policy to let all ethic groups join, so they aren't actually racist anymore. They're facist IMO, but that's different. I don't think that kind of sweeping generalisation helps anything, and I think you've actually proved Scott's point in a way. Slightly different when you are forced to change your policy on legal grounds..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8308582.stm they are still racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Feminists. EDIT: oh, and Greenpeace. hmmmm... I like the idea of a fascist feminist party as I suspect Animal would too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I am sure Tinchy would have seen this before it was publication, although it could have been mostly likely his PR team. Think you guys need to think way back to like the 80's when people called Black people "monkey" as an insult etc. If this poster was put up then, I would call it racist. In todays age it shouldn't be, but I can see why someone would have got upset if any did not understand why it said money there (like I for one did not even know they have tariff's named after animals!). Would be good to get some feedback from forum members who are black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 A slight sidestep to a discussion about What Is Fascism: BBC news article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 lol, you got me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Slightly different when you are forced to change your policy on legal grounds..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8308582.stm they are still racist. I'm aware of what happened, but they did change policy because the previous one was racist. So in literal terms, the party aren't racist anymore because the policy which made them racist in the eyes of the law has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 hmmmm... I like the idea of a fascist feminist party as I suspect Animal would too Even if they all looked like Mary Whitehouse, with attitudes to match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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