a98pmalcolm Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Well just as the title says really. When i was buying my supra from Jugan i asked him to make sure it was all digi clock and millage as i thought it looked alot neater and modern. Why did the facelift models change to an anolog clock and anolog millage? Not that its a bad thing just curious... Thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It's because of the millennium bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 It's because of the millennium bug. lol wouldnt suprise me those crazy japs! Cheers for your comments earlyer gaz in the prevuis post.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 lol wouldnt suprise me those crazy japs! Cheers for your comments earlyer gaz in the prevuis post.... Not a problem! I'm here to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) There was a massive uproar in the Japanese motor industry in '96 as clocking was getting far too expensive, so they changed to a load to analogue(particularly Nissan) to bring that cost down and made it easy enough for people to do it from home. Edited October 27, 2009 by Tom (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 There was a massive uproar in the Japanese motor industry in '96 as clocking was getting far too expensive, so they changed to load to analogue(particularly Nissan) to bring that cost down and made it easy enough for people to do it from home. Ahh ok i see. But "made it easy enough for people to do it from home." made what easy? sorry.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 clocking - so you clock the mileage twice a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Ahh ok i see. But "made it easy enough for people to do it from home." made what easy? sorry.... I'm not sure, but I suspect, he might be pulling your plonker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Ahh ok i see. But "made it easy enough for people to do it from home." made what easy? sorry.... only have a few screws to remove and you can rewind it by hand, the 'digital clock managers' or anyone who had the clocking device also known in Japan as a "windee backee clockee" were charging in excess of 100,000 yen for the service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Also, why did they change over to non turbo engine mounts, dodgy seat belts that dont retract, dodgy door armrests that always come away, I'm sure there was something else they buggered up on facelift cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Also, why did they change over to non turbo engine mounts, dodgy seat belts that dont retract, dodgy door armrests that always come away, I'm sure there was something else they buggered up on facelift cars! rear boot mechanism/lever often doesn't open the rear hatch properly? Cheap dipsticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm not sure, but I suspect, he might be pulling your plonker. Tom that son of a gun! lol.....Yer there seems to be a few cheaper cut backs on the facelift models! Although hear the dash pannels are far far better in quality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 indeed.... there not coated in that rubber crap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Also, why did they change over to non turbo engine mounts, dodgy seat belts that dont retract, dodgy door armrests that always come away, I'm sure there was something else they buggered up on facelift cars! Pheonix used to tell me that the facelift cars use a poorer / thinner metal too (bodywork)....... Perhaps Toyota realised that the pre-face was over-engineered and wanted to optimise / lean out the supra in order to add to their profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 notice how the headrest design was crap aswel compared to the pre facelift! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wow, makes me free good about having a pre-facelift! At least got rid of the rubber dash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wow, makes me free good about having a pre-facelift! At least got rid of the rubber dash! Think yourself lucky you don't have a heavy-ass UK spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Pheonix used to tell me that the facelift cars use a poorer / thinner metal too (bodywork)....... I see that as a weight-reducing measure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I see that as a weight-reducing measure you must work in marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I loved my facelift. although the seatbelt was a pain in the ass. As was the boot not Opening. Im sure they can be fixed. but i could never be arsed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 so the wise choice is always to go for a pre facelift for the better built car all round.... everyday is a school day! thanks for all the responses guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 so the wise choice is always to go for a pre facelift for the better built car all round.... with the age of the cars regardless of pre or post facelift, I would always advise a buyer to go for the best looked after one that they can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 with the age of the cars regardless of pre or post facelift, I would always advise a buyer to go for the best looked after one that they can afford. indeed, I like the look of the facelift and whilst there does seem to have been an element of cost cutting its cost cutting Toyota style so they didn't really seem to cut costs on any of the important mechanical/electrical items. The early cars aren't without issue the Oil pressure sensor was revised I believe (er struggling beyond that though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Also why did the 6spd swap to a weaker diff, prop, driveshafts and hubs... The facelift to a smaller "NA" radiator amoung so many other things. Pre-facelift 6spds FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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