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Classical or Clubbin ?


Gerry

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I just love these two pieces of music in both forms, I can never decide on which I like best, the original which to me are simply stunning and the "clubbed up" versions which I recon are two of the best club tracks ever - especially when played at "11" :)

 

Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings, op.11

 

 

Didn't choose the "Platoon" version as the machine guns spoil it, although it's the first image I think of when I hear it.

or

 

Tiesto's

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Elgar - Enigma Variations, Op. 36 (1/-)

 

or

 

Rob Dougan's

 

 

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I'd like to see that Tiesto thrown into a skip full of vipers. The Orbit version is bad enough, his is even more horrible.

 

The way I look at it is this. Key elements in music include harmony, melody, rhythm and dynamics. As dancing and clubs tend to go together, the dominant element in club music is rhythm and everything else has to fit to that. Further, the rhythm tends to be pretty inflexible - strikes me that club music strays outside of 4/4 even less than most contemporary music, and variations in tempo don't get very adventurous either. Harmony takes a back seat to rhythm, so the chord sequences are often very predictable indeed.

 

Barber's Adagio, as the name tells us, is a slow piece, and the shifts in rhythm are subtle and nuanced. It also moves the melody line between the different strings. The music swells and recedes. All of these things are painstakingly combined to tell a heartbreaking story.

 

The clubbers systematically destroy any element of spirit and meaning the original piece has. First - replace the strings (integral to how it was written) with a crappy synthesized sound. Next - hammer it into a relentless club rhythm, regardless of whether it fits. Next - speed it up. Next - roller flat any dynamics in it. Finally, bung in those tried and tested synthesized clubbin' chords that seem to be used on every single club track.

 

I don't mind club music, because I figure there has to be something for people who have declared war on their own ears to listen to :). However, I violently object to Orbit and co. appropriating proper music and making it into something nasty and trivial.

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The clubbers systematically destroy any element of spirit and meaning the original piece has. First - replace the strings (integral to how it was written) with a crappy synthesized sound. Next - hammer it into a relentless club rhythm, regardless of whether it fits. Next - speed it up. Next - roller flat any dynamics in it. Finally, bung in those tried and tested synthesized clubbin' chords that seem to be used on every single club track.

 

Yes, but it sounds great :D

 

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Yup, William Orbit. :)

 

Not sure who first clubbed it up, but William Orbit did one in 1999

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRqndwCqa5g

 

You need to give it about 60 secs to get good.

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It was Ferry Corsten not William Orbit.

 

From Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Orbit

Orbit also produced a version of Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" (the original version of which was memorably used as the main theme of the soundtrack to Platoon). Adagio was lifted from the successful album Pieces in a Modern Style which was a compilation of classical re-workings. Orbit's version of the track was itself remixed in 1999 by Ferry Corsten and became a big club music hit as well as reaching #4 in the UK Singles Chart.[2]

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The original for both.

 

Personally I think Tiesto's version of Adagio for Strings is very poor. I thought the William Orbit (remixed by Ferry Corsten?) one was a much better dance version. I was quite impressed by this version though, but them I'm impressed by anyone who is obviously talented at their chosen instrument...

 

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It was Ferry Corsten not William Orbit.

 

From Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Orbit

Orbit also produced a version of Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" (the original version of which was memorably used as the main theme of the soundtrack to Platoon). Adagio was lifted from the successful album Pieces in a Modern Style which was a compilation of classical re-workings. Orbit's version of the track was itself remixed in 1999 by Ferry Corsten and became a big club music hit as well as reaching #4 in the UK Singles Chart.[2]

 

So Orbit was the first then? Thought so.

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It was Ferry Corsten not William Orbit.

 

From Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Orbit

Orbit also produced a version of Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" (the original version of which was memorably used as the main theme of the soundtrack to Platoon). Adagio was lifted from the successful album Pieces in a Modern Style which was a compilation of classical re-workings. Orbit's version of the track was itself remixed in 1999 by Ferry Corsten and became a big club music hit as well as reaching #4 in the UK Singles Chart.[2]

 

:D

 

It was William Orbit then, wasn't it? Ferry Corsten just remixed it.

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For anyone not joking - Orbits had NO beats!

 

edit - I really hope I am right on this having never heard the William Orbit version. I just know that the version that 99% of people think is Orbits, is actually Corstens. Just listent to other Corsten stuff from the era, Into the Blue etc and its pretty obvious.

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