Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi guys since fitting my spacers i very occassionaly get rubbing on the rear arches. Was tempted to use archenemy to roll the lip however im concerned when they roll the lip the paint might crack along the bottom part of the arch where its stretched the paint? Anyone got any experience in this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 i had mine rolled with archenemy, not a problem 100% ok, however, there is always a chance that the paint might crack whoever does the rolling Its all down to the quality of the paint, and if its been recently/ever repaired in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Cheers ric thats my worry not knowing for sure it'd be ok. If the paint cracks would u need to smooth it and blow in that whole panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 i put a heat gun on the paint and got it noce and warm before i rolled back the lip and ther wer no probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 i put a heat gun on the paint and got it noce and warm before i rolled back the lip and ther wer no probs this is what arch enemy do, they are pros In answer to your other question, if the paint cracks yes it probably would involve rolling them anyway then get the damage repaired No point repairing the damage then trying to roll them again because that wont work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) mate, get them shaved instead. Thats what i did on my previous car when i had the Weds fitted. Quite a bit can be removed from the rear arch with shaving and you therefore run no risk of cracking the paint Just make sure a certain amount is left so as not to remove the spot welds think i paid about £50 to have the rears done. I couldnt go round corners at even 20 mph without them rubbing, and they were absolutely fine after even with a passenger in the back Edited October 22, 2009 by Stonkin (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 What is 'getting them shaved' mate? Is that cut cutting the lip off? Can that lead to rust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I had mine rolled with archenemy. No cracking and I'm generally happy with it, but if you look carefully you get the old 50p coin effect where the welds are... ever so slight angles..... No one normally notices it but I took it to GVN to have the bumper and bonnet fitted and Gerald took one look and said. "You should have had them cut".. trained eyes I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Cheers mark. I just got home from garage and while there asked if they would cut the lip but he said it was a bad idea as would rust. Id rather just cut the lip but unsure how the 'right' way is to get it done?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 there is a lip along the inside from roughly 9 till 3 (on a clock ) from memory it must be over 1/2 inch wide, shave some of this off. As long as they know what they are doing it would be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 "You should have had them cut".. trained eyes I guess. see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Cheers mark. I just got home from garage and while there asked if they would cut the lip but he said it was a bad idea as would rust. Id rather just cut the lip but unsure how the 'right' way is to get it done?? Basically, there are 2 skins that meet in the arch. When you cut them, the 2 skins can now get moisture etc in between them, which eventually will cause rust. A good body shop will cut them back, and then either weld them shut or seal them somehow and coat with antirust. If it was me, I'd get it cut properly and pay more, or if no one will touch them, then roll them. Rolling is better than rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 EDIT above: The two skins are sealed from the factory, and cutting them is like opening an envelope ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 isnt that only a problem though Mark if to much is cut and any of the welds around it get cut to. mine werent welded along the edge after but they were sealed by them afterwards. Had the car for at least another year after and never had any rust issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 archenemy done mine, no problems:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 isnt that only a problem though Mark if to much is cut and any of the welds around it get cut to. mine werent welded along the edge after but they were sealed by them afterwards. Had the car for at least another year after and never had any rust issues They're kind of tack welded evey 4 inches all around the edge which is why you get the 50p effect. If they're properly sealed then it shouldn't be a problem in the short term. I guess all cars eventually rust anyway. You probably had a good job done on yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Archenemy can shave them back as well. They will usually give you the choice. They rolled my arches and it left them wavy and the paint cracked. He warned me it would happen but I said do it anyway. Wish I had them shaved back now. You can never be sure how the arch will react. The guy that did mine owns the Archenemy company and franchises out to all the others, so he knew what he was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Archenemy can shave them back as well. They will usually give you the choice. They rolled my arches and it left them wavy and the paint cracked. He warned me it would happen but I said do it anyway. Wish I had them shaved back now. You can never be sure how the arch will react. The guy that did mine owns the Archenemy company and franchises out to all the others, so he knew what he was doing. Ah mate the exact same thing happened to me mate when i had my r33 done i asked for them to be rolled and flared - he said up to me but the thought of flared arches took over. Anyway an hour later amd all 4 of my arches are properly f**ked the paint flaked and cracked and the arches were really wavy. So bad i ended up having to buy a full set of 400r flared arches!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish man Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi guys since fitting my spacers i very occassionaly get rubbing on the rear arches. Was tempted to use archenemy to roll the lip however im concerned when they roll the lip the paint might crack along the bottom part of the arch where its stretched the paint? Anyone got any experience in this? i used archenemy with out any problem they tolld me toyotas are the best cars to work on with out so many problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 i used archenemy with out any problem they tolld me toyotas are the best cars to work on with out so many problems cheers mate - however i bet they say that to probably every car type owner they go and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 i used archenemy with out any problem they tolld me toyotas are the best cars to work on with out so many problems The guy that owns Archenemy said Supras are one of the worst to work on as you never know what the arch roller will do. Different answers it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Im gonna get mine cut/shaved off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 met with Baldy yesterday and we decided rolling them slightly was the better option... ..now to find a roller to borrow for an hour!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 met with Baldy yesterday and we decided rolling them slightly was the better option... ..now to find a roller to borrow for an hour!! Get Archenemy to do them... It's worth it. If you do it yourself, get a roller that bolts to the hub and use a heat gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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