Lbm Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 What's wrong with twins? Apparently Matt H has ordered a set of these... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Where is the Fun in that?? Lots there is no fun in doing your own. Done it and as it happens buying a sorted one is much more fum IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Lots there is no fun in doing your own. Done it and as it happens buying a sorted one is much more fum IMO well one thats works eh, he he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSK Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Apparently Matt H has ordered a set of these... http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/littlebigman_123/twins.jpg brilliant lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 You might want to have a word with Matt or Dude from AFR, they're developing a single kit that they aim to run from the stock fuel system, which should give slightly higher than BPU performance. And you'll get the lovely noise Not sure I would want to spend lots of money on a single package which just managed to creep over BPU levels. Not really worth it TBH This was a PM Dude sent me about it: Single kit circca £1300 depending on spec £1300 fitting FOC. The idea of the budget single is to run on stock ecu etc using just a Aeromotive FPR and Walboro pump, we use a 0.8 bar wastegate spring to limit power to around 400hp, this is seen as a temporary measure until supporting mods are added, the last one we did put out 420 bhp on an auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 check compression first to make sure engine is up to it! scott, check nengun for injectors save urself 200 quid The figures quoted aren't from shopping around. As long as I have a higher than necessary figure in mind then hopefully I will be covered for any bits I miss lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 IMO £1300 is a great price and theres always room to upgrade a few bits to get more power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 This was a PM Dude sent me about it: Single kit circca £1300 depending on spec £1300 fitting FOC. The idea of the budget single is to run on stock ecu etc using just a Aeromotive FPR and Walboro pump, we use a 0.8 bar wastegate spring to limit power to around 400hp, this is seen as a temporary measure until supporting mods are added, the last one we did put out 420 bhp on an auto. I spent more than that on just my turbo, what make parts are they using? turbo spec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 L33 = 20k. Budget for that and you won;t be struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) My car was at BPU on the stock twins. I also already had HKS 264 camshafts, and a FMIC fitted. When i went single I did all the work myself (Single kit, clutch, fuel system etc). That cost me £8k. If this was being fitted by someone else you are looking a minimum of £10k to do it properly. Edited October 22, 2009 by Steve (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm pretty sure they were used parts from the cars they're importing to strip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 The idea of the budget single is to run on stock ecu using just a Aeromotive FPR and Walboro pump, we use a 0.8 bar wastegate spring to limit power to around 400hp, this is seen as a temporary measure until supporting mods are added, the last one we did put out 420 bhp on an auto. There is no way I would run a single turbo on the stock ECU. Its just all wrong IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Apparently Matt H has ordered a set of these... http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/littlebigman_123/twins.jpg hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm just going on what has been passed through to me, i've never heard of running a single turbo on a stock ecu before either, but the reputation Dude and everyone else has at AFR, i'd rather see the results first before i cast judgement! Mine aint being a guinea pig mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 i always thought 10k was the figure including internals. Read its much cheaper if u just go: turbo kit injectors fuelling ecu remap this is from a bpu car with fmic etc already fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 i always thought 10k was the figure including internals. Read its much cheaper if u just go: turbo kit injectors fuelling ecu remap this is from a bpu car with fmic etc already fitted. Including internals No way, I am currently having the engine rebuilt with stronger/lighter internals. Without labour, so for parts only I am up to around £4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopgunTT Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 10k is usual figure...i thought 10k would be ample....now 20k down I will wait to buy this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 If I wanted to go single, I'd buy from Whifbitz or Jurgen. No one else unless, sourced from people like JamieP, LeeP etc. I'd want the yes from CW, AFR Chingy and Sumo etc. Everyone in the know and on here. Nothing less would lead me to spend otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Mind you..without individual enterprise, as seen all over this forum. We wouldn't be here in the first place. There'd be no experts. There'd be no advice. 20 years ago I'd be trying to get something new. I don't need to now and that's a copout. Go single and always know that you have earned respect not bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 so realisticly for moneys sake buy one with a single already lol. Yes, buy one with a quality turbo, manifold and ECU setup, then hopefully you'll have just slightly increased running costs and worse case you'll need to dip into the £2K 2nd hand engine contingency fund. If you don't get any major drama's you could come out with just the few K of depreciation most cars suffer........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Including internals No way, I am currently having the engine rebuilt with stronger/lighter internals. Without labour, so for parts only I am up to around £4k. Holy sh!t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 There is no way I would run a single turbo on the stock ECU. Its just all wrong IMO. It's a fudge/compromise thats for sure but so is TTC mode..... ..........if you plop on a turbo with similar flow characteristics as the stock twins in TTC then the car/ECU is not to know the turbos aren't stock, it'll just see the same air/psi as before..........like I say a fudge (as TTC is really), but a fudge thats unlikely to blow up especially given some long term testing as appears to be happening............pointless to some but an option for those with blown stock twins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 It's a fudge/compromise thats for sure but so is TTC mode..... ..........if you plop on a turbo with similar flow characteristics as the stock twins in TTC then the car/ECU is not to know the turbos aren't stock, it'll just see the same air/psi as before..........like I say a fudge (as TTC is really), but a fudge thats unlikely to blow up especially given some long term testing as appears to be happening............pointless to some but an option for those with blown stock twins? One single turbo will never "flow" like a pair in sequential setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 It's a fudge/compromise thats for sure but so is TTC mode..... ..........if you plop on a turbo with similar flow characteristics as the stock twins in TTC then the car/ECU is not to know the turbos aren't stock, it'll just see the same air/psi as before..........like I say a fudge (as TTC is really), but a fudge thats unlikely to blow up especially given some long term testing as appears to be happening............pointless to some but an option for those with blown stock twins? Or for people who want the sound of a single with screamer etc! Also what is TTC? Noobness i know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I've just done it. Still not finished. 10k easily if you take into account things don't always fit out the box, and sometimes parts break during the upgrade. My alternator has just gone. 12.5k if you include the manual conversion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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