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What Sort Of Cost To Go Single?


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You might want to have a word with Matt or Dude from AFR, they're developing a single kit that they aim to run from the stock fuel system, which should give slightly higher than BPU performance.

 

And you'll get the lovely noise :cool:

 

Not sure I would want to spend lots of money on a single package which just managed to creep over BPU levels.

 

Not really worth it TBH

 

This was a PM Dude sent me about it:

 

Single kit circca £1300 depending on spec £1300 fitting FOC.

 

The idea of the budget single is to run on stock ecu etc using just a Aeromotive FPR and Walboro pump, we use a 0.8 bar wastegate spring to limit power to around 400hp, this is seen as a temporary measure until supporting mods are added, the last one we did put out 420 bhp on an auto.

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check compression first to make sure engine is up to it!

 

scott, check nengun for injectors ;) save urself 200 quid

 

The figures quoted aren't from shopping around. As long as I have a higher than necessary figure in mind then hopefully I will be covered for any bits I miss lol.

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This was a PM Dude sent me about it:

 

Single kit circca £1300 depending on spec £1300 fitting FOC.

 

The idea of the budget single is to run on stock ecu etc using just a Aeromotive FPR and Walboro pump, we use a 0.8 bar wastegate spring to limit power to around 400hp, this is seen as a temporary measure until supporting mods are added, the last one we did put out 420 bhp on an auto.

 

I spent more than that on just my turbo, what make parts are they using? turbo spec?

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My car was at BPU on the stock twins. I also already had HKS 264 camshafts, and a FMIC fitted. When i went single I did all the work myself (Single kit, clutch, fuel system etc). That cost me £8k.

If this was being fitted by someone else you are looking a minimum of £10k to do it properly.

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The idea of the budget single is to run on stock ecu using just a Aeromotive FPR and Walboro pump, we use a 0.8 bar wastegate spring to limit power to around 400hp, this is seen as a temporary measure until supporting mods are added, the last one we did put out 420 bhp on an auto.

 

 

There is no way I would run a single turbo on the stock ECU. Its just all wrong IMO.

 

:bang:

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I'm just going on what has been passed through to me, i've never heard of running a single turbo on a stock ecu before either, but the reputation Dude and everyone else has at AFR, i'd rather see the results first before i cast judgement!

 

 

 

Mine aint being a guinea pig mind! :D

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i always thought 10k was the figure including internals.

 

Read its much cheaper if u just go:

turbo kit

injectors

fuelling

ecu

remap

 

this is from a bpu car with fmic etc already fitted.

 

Including internals :blink:

 

No way, I am currently having the engine rebuilt with stronger/lighter internals. Without labour, so for parts only I am up to around £4k.

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If I wanted to go single, I'd buy from Whifbitz or Jurgen. No one else unless, sourced from people like JamieP, LeeP etc. I'd want the yes from CW, AFR Chingy and Sumo etc. Everyone in the know and on here. Nothing less would lead me to spend otherwise.

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Mind you..without individual enterprise, as seen all over this forum. We wouldn't be here in the first place. There'd be no experts. There'd be no advice.

20 years ago I'd be trying to get something new. I don't need to now and that's a copout. :)

Go single and always know that you have earned respect not bought it. :)

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so realisticly for moneys sake buy one with a single already lol.

 

Yes, buy one with a quality turbo, manifold and ECU setup, then hopefully you'll have just slightly increased running costs and worse case you'll need to dip into the £2K 2nd hand engine contingency fund.

 

If you don't get any major drama's you could come out with just the few K of depreciation most cars suffer...........

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There is no way I would run a single turbo on the stock ECU. Its just all wrong IMO.

 

:bang:

 

It's a fudge/compromise thats for sure but so is TTC mode.....

 

..........if you plop on a turbo with similar flow characteristics as the stock twins in TTC then the car/ECU is not to know the turbos aren't stock, it'll just see the same air/psi as before..........like I say a fudge (as TTC is really), but a fudge thats unlikely to blow up especially given some long term testing as appears to be happening............pointless to some but an option for those with blown stock twins?

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It's a fudge/compromise thats for sure but so is TTC mode.....

 

..........if you plop on a turbo with similar flow characteristics as the stock twins in TTC then the car/ECU is not to know the turbos aren't stock, it'll just see the same air/psi as before..........like I say a fudge (as TTC is really), but a fudge thats unlikely to blow up especially given some long term testing as appears to be happening............pointless to some but an option for those with blown stock twins?

One single turbo will never "flow" like a pair in sequential setup

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It's a fudge/compromise thats for sure but so is TTC mode.....

 

..........if you plop on a turbo with similar flow characteristics as the stock twins in TTC then the car/ECU is not to know the turbos aren't stock, it'll just see the same air/psi as before..........like I say a fudge (as TTC is really), but a fudge thats unlikely to blow up especially given some long term testing as appears to be happening............pointless to some but an option for those with blown stock twins?

 

 

 

Or for people who want the sound of a single with screamer etc!

 

Also what is TTC? Noobness i know! :D

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