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Eroding Turbo Gasket


Kev.O

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I've removed my turbo today as somehow the gasket has been eroded away:

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Can anyone help me/explain what would have caused the gasket to end up like this? I only noticed it when the boost started to come online later and later.

 

On a more positive note, my T61 Precision blades were perfect (I've only done 1500 miles) and my SP manifold is looking fine:

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I have been contemplating one of the new billet turbo's, something like a 6262/6265 but I'm not sure whether the turbo would foul the manifold like on Jamie's car :(

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I would get both faces machined flat before fitting another gasket bud, thats not a lot of miles to lose a gasket, what manifold is that? looks different to mine, the flange looks closer to the suspension turret which is what you want with fitting a H cover, billet or non billet makes no odds, its what cover you go with that causes the fitment issue.

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Kev if you want to know for sure, I can ask Michel if I can test fit the new turbo to my old manifold (as he bought it from me), if I can fit a T67 H-Cover on you should be fine fitting a T67 whatever cover on it

 

I just asked that in the other thread, that swould be great, thanks Jay. Failing that I could always bring my manifold up north with me once you receive the turbo.

 

I would get both faces machined flat before fitting another gasket bud, thats not a lot of miles to lose a gasket, what manifold is that? looks different to mine, the flange looks closer to the suspension turret which is what you want with fitting a H cover, billet or non billet makes no odds, its what cover you go with that causes the fitment issue.

 

I would only get the 2.5 inch housing as I'm running a CW SMIC. So in theory I shouldn't have any issues.

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Either the faces are warped or the fasteners have loosened after a few heat cycles and lifted the turbo.

 

The fasteneres weren't tight when I removed the turbo but I put that down to the fact that when they were tightened, there was an extra 2mm of metal between the two faces, which has now disappeared.

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Had the same on mine Kev. The exhaust manifold face was not completely flat, it should have been machined (my fault).

 

I'm going to remove the manifold tomorrow and find somewhere local to get it checked along with the exhaust housing.

CW did recommend I check it before I fitted the manifold. He suggested using a piece of glass. I guess my spirit level didn't cut it ;)

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That type of gasket failure, as others have said, is due to a loss of clamping load and hot gasses escaping and literally burning up the gasket. Whilst everyone is saying, and rightly, check the manifold flange for trueness, you MUST also check the turbine housing flange for straightness, as that may well be warped. If you have a steady hand and eye you can true them up on a decent industrial quality belt sander, or they can be milled or surface ground true. Some designs of tubular manifold will always pull the flange though, and it will just keep happening. Expensive ones have slip joints to allow the pipes to expand and contract unequally without loading the turbo flange.

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That type of gasket failure, as others have said, is due to a loss of clamping load and hot gasses escaping and literally burning up the gasket. Whilst everyone is saying, and rightly, check the manifold flange for trueness, you MUST also check the turbine housing flange for straightness, as that may well be warped. If you have a steady hand and eye you can true them up on a decent industrial quality belt sander, or they can be milled or surface ground true. Some designs of tubular manifold will always pull the flange though, and it will just keep happening. Expensive ones have slip joints to allow the pipes to expand and contract unequally without loading the turbo flange.

 

Thanks for the reply Chris. I have checked the turbine housing today and it seems pretty perfect. The manifold however is out. The centre section between the twin scroll area is also high, but in theory that shouldn't cause an issue as the housing isn't twin scroll. I'll get it all flat before re-fitting it back onto the car.

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