Abz Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Could you type that in Latin? I'd have more chance of understanding it. Hehe I had you down as one of them urber geeks, or are you pulling my leg? If don't know then chances are its normal DHCP (where the router automatically assigns you an IP Address when you connect to the router. Static is where you use a specific IP Address to connect to the router. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Your network card will have an IP address. This is either static - You have told the network adapter the IP address you want to use and it stays the same. Dynamic via DHCP - Your router gives your network card the ip address everytime it connects. Its usually the same one each time. I doubt that would be the issue though. You could try a static IP to see if that helps. Doh! Too slow, girlfriend kept pinching me so thats my excuse! Might not be related but its worth checking this as this could be related to the corrupt TCP\IP Stack issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Hehe I had you down as one of them urber geeks, or are you pulling my leg? If don't know then chances are its normal DHCP (where the router automatically assigns you an IP Address when you connect to the router. Static is where you use a specific IP Address to connect to the router. You mean like the 'normal' 192.168.0.1 for Netgear routers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 You mean like the 'normal' 192.168.0.1 for Netgear routers? Yeah, that is the address of the router. Everything connected to the router has the same prefix... ie 192.168.0.xxx The DHCP server on your router will have a set number of IP's that it can dish out. Usually from 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.150. When your PC connects to the router it is assigned one of these IP's. The router will remember which IP it has given to the PC and will hold onto it for a set amount of time. This means if you turn the PC off and back on, it should get the same IP address. When you set a static IP address you must use the same prefix. It is also better to NOT use one in the DHCP range so basically anything from 192.168.0.150-192.168.0.256 is best. Stops things from getting confused. I use static IP's for various reasons, one being remote desktop. Means i never need to worry about it changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Yeah, that is the address of the router. Everything connected to the router has the same prefix... ie 192.168.0.xxx The DHCP server on your router will have a set number of IP's that it can dish out. Usually from 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.150. When your PC connects to the router it is assigned one of these IP's. The router will remember which IP it has given to the PC and will hold onto it for a set amount of time. This means if you turn the PC off and back on, it should get the same IP address. When you set a static IP address you must use the same prefix. It is also better to NOT use one in the DHCP range so basically anything from 192.168.0.150-192.168.0.256 is best. Stops things from getting confused. I use static IP's for various reasons, one being remote desktop. Means i never need to worry about it changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 I just explained it in the simplest form. I know its a Friday night but comeon!! Think of it as postcodes and houses in a block. The postcode is 192.168.0. The houses are 100-256 100-150 are rented You can either rent one of the above, or buy one of your own. If you buy one you choose it yourself from 151-256. Better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 You mean like the 'normal' 192.168.0.1 for Netgear routers? Thats slightly different because with that IP Address you are connecting to the Netgears admin page which allows you to configure the router itself. The static IP would be used to, say for example you only want one laptop to connect securely but instead of the router automatically assign you an IP address as soon as you connect, you can configure the router so then it only accepts connection with the IP Address which has been setup. Thus allowing you to manually assign an IP Address on the PC which the router will recongnise. Hope that makes sense, because I am off to bed! *I am shattered and got loads to do tomorrow!* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 I just explained it in the simplest form. I know its a Friday night but comeon!! Think of it as postcodes and houses in a block. The postcode is 192.168.0. The houses are 100-256 100-150 are rented You can either rent one of the above, or buy one of your own. If you buy one you choose it yourself from 151-256. Better? Thats slightly different because with that IP Address you are connecting to the Netgears admin page which allows you to configure the router itself. The static IP would be used to, say for example you only want one laptop to connect securely but instead of the router automatically assign you an IP address as soon as you connect, you can configure the router so then it only accepts connection with the IP Address which has been setup. Thus allowing you to manually assign an IP Address on the PC which the router will recongnise. Hope that makes sense, because I am off to bed! *I am shattered and got loads to do tomorrow!* I think I've got it now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed because it appears that the corrupt stack route has solved my woes. No disconnect yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Woohoo Should have asked on here when the Wifey had the issue. That didn't even cross my mind to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Woohoo Should have asked on here when the Wifey had the issue. That didn't even cross my mind to be honest. Best forum on t'interweb innit? Such a wealth of knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Finally cracked it! Despite thinking that it was the corrupt stack thing it turned out to be ZoneAlarm Pro! God knows how exactly but with it removed I haven't lost connection at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Bloody zone alarm, you're best off without it. What's the problem with your Linux install though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What's the problem with your Linux install though? Mmm. Have you turned to the Dark Side Rorschach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Mmm. Have you turned to the Dark Side Rorschach? Vista? Yes, seemingly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Bloody zone alarm, you're best off without it. What's the problem with your Linux install though? I don't know. What started as a generic speed problem when browsing T'interweb lead me to try Vista and I found that while slower than I was expecting/used to my browsing experience was faster than Linux. I've been switched to a temporary profile by Plusnet to see if that cures my woes. Seems to have made things a little better so far. Ultimately, I like Linux but I'm liking what I see about Windows 7 too. There's no denying that Firefox is faster in Windows than Linux and Chrome is even faster. Not sure what to do TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevan Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Good news that you cracked it. Zone Alarm used to be a cracking piece of software and essential on dia-up or with a broadband modem. Now though, with most connections through a router, it's largely redundent. If you want a belt and braces approach, use the Windows firewall that's part of the OS as a backup to your router. It's surprisingly good for a M$ product and has the advantage of being fully integrated in the OS. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Good news that you cracked it. Zone Alarm used to be a cracking piece of software and essential on dia-up or with a broadband modem. Now though, with most connections through a router, it's largely redundent. If you want a belt and braces approach, use the Windows firewall that's part of the OS as a backup to your router. It's surprisingly good for a M$ product and has the advantage of being fully integrated in the OS. K. Proper belt and braces is a standalone layer-7 firewall, that can handle the throughput of modern connections. I always find small little home routers aren't up to the job, and don't do layer-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Proper belt and braces is a standalone layer-7 firewall, that can handle the throughput of modern connections. I always find small little home routers aren't up to the job, and don't do layer-7. ..and they cost how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Glad to hear its sorted mate, I use ZoneAlarm on my work laptop and its pretty good piece of software. Though ideally should have got you to post your software list. Bet you feel much better now you solved it yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 I was until a few minutes ago. I lost connection from Network (as defined by Vista) to the Internet. I managed to fix it using Vista's own diagnosis stuff. My router log showed no disconnect though. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I was until a few minutes ago. I lost connection from Network (as defined by Vista) to the Internet. I managed to fix it using Vista's own diagnosis stuff. My router log showed no disconnect though. Any ideas? Looks like it is then an issue with the desktop (running vista). Could you try doing a system restore from before you started having the problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 ..and they cost how much? Nothing but a cheap PC... AMD 2500+ very happily does my network with Layer-7. Have a look at http://www.smoothwall.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Looks like it is then an issue with the desktop (running vista). Could you try doing a system restore from before you started having the problems? I can't remember when I first noticed it. I may even have put it down to ISP trouble for months before then. I have hardly used Vista since switching to Linux over a year ago. I might get Windows 7 and see if that cures it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Nothing but a cheap PC... AMD 2500+ very happily does my network with Layer-7. Have a look at http://www.smoothwall.org That Smoothwall sounds like the Yoggie Gatekeeper gizmos. Basically a self-contained Linux box doing the security for you with little overheads. Any opinion on the Yoggie stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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