Gaz6002 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 All that carbon fibre and 1480kg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 It will be a flop at that price. People are brand snobs when it comes to cars. Lexus does not have a sports car heritage that can justify this cars cost. It's spec and performance can be delivered from cars on the market at 1/3 the price. Why buy it? Is it that unique that you would buy one out of interest?? They would have been better making a slower car based on the Supra heritage which has a pre existing customer and fan base. 0-60 in 4.2 from a v6 or v8 with 4wd would have been nice. Who cares about top speeds over 200mph, probably going to be limited to 155mph anyway so why bother. Oh and yes, sub £100k so that one day I might have a chance of owning one!! Sorry for the misserable post. I just wish Toyota would do a car like the Supra again. Sure it has it's faults but it had good performance at a reasonable price. In it's day it put nearly every other car manufacturer to shame, mainly the overprice shite coming from Germany and Italy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 They would have been better making a slower car based on the Supra heritage which has a pre existing customer and fan base. 0-60 in 4.2 from a v6 or v8 with 4wd would have been nice. Who cares about top speeds over 200mph, probably going to be limited to 155mph anyway so why bother. Oh and yes, sub £100k so that one day I might have a chance of owning one!! I agree with your point, although 4WD?! No thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 4WD seems to be the thing now? I love RWD but has it had it's day? Would you not trade the drifting for better traction and all out handling and performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 4WD seems to be the thing now? I love RWD but has it had it's day? Would you not trade the drifting for better traction and all out handling and performance? It's not all about drifting, but being able to balance the car mid-corner and correct angles. 4WD means transmissions losses as well, and substantial amounts of extra weight. Also, unless extremely advanced, understeer is a problem. Pretty much all race cars are RWD - there's a reason for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 It's not all about drifting, but being able to balance the car mid-corner and correct angles. 4WD means transmissions losses as well, and substantial amounts of extra weight. Also, unless extremely advanced, understeer is a problem. Pretty much all race cars are RWD - there's a reason for that. Fair point. I'm in no real position to comment as I neither drive my Supra as it's limits regularly enough and have only had one spirited drive in a performance 4WD car (GT-R). Not really a fair comparison I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Fair point. I'm in no real position to comment as I neither drive my Supra as it's limits regularly enough and have only had one spirited drive in a performance 4WD car (GT-R). Not really a fair comparison I suppose. The GT-R 4WD system is actually an exception to the rule, as it's not permanent 4WD. The torque is only converted to the front wheels when the back ones lose traction. Best of both worlds in terms of traction, but not in terms of weight or mid-corner correction or (IMO) driveability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/FEATURES/NEWCARS/OTHERS/lexus_lfa_supercar_costs_336k.html Pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Jesus, I was expecting it to be a third of that price! I love this car, don't get me wrong, but I'd pay a lot less for a Lambo Mur LP. If can only imagine it selling well if it performs like no other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Also here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=199580 p.s. I would take an LP640 Murci at that price and still have plenty left over for a GTR, lovely looking and sounding car though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 At that price, it makes the supra (even at its list price when new) seem like an old beater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Looks like an amazing machine. That's almost as expensive as your car, Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multics Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 looks great but as matt said would have to perform like a monster and have good handling and drivability to sell well! I would also have to take up bank robbing or be addopted by Jamie P to afford it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 looks great but as matt said would have to perform like a monster and have good handling and drivability to sell well! I would also have to take up bank robbing or be addopted by Jamie P to afford it! JamieP? You mean Jamiroquai at that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Ahh but how quickly could the stig get it round the Top Gear circuit and is it really worth £280k more than a Nissan GTR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Only 500 to be made? Probably all pre-sold to be locked in a collectors garage somewhere and never to be seen again by the likes of us, no doubt. Shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Only 500 to be made? Probably all pre-sold to be locked in a collectors garage somewhere and never to be seen again by the likes of us, no doubt. Shame I hear Jamiep's missis has pre ordered him one for christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think they should make a 4.0 V8 Twin Turbo cheaper version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think they should make a 4.0 V8 Twin Turbo cheaper version but then it would be just another beater! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think they should make a 4.0 V8 Twin Turbo cheaper version It couldn't be that much cheaper though. The engine isn't the expensive bit, relatively. It's the whole package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Maybe it would be cheaper if they made more than 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Threads merged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Maybe it would be cheaper if they made more than 500 It wouldn't because they're still making a big loss every car at 500 units. The ratios don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I hear Jamiep's missis has pre ordered him one for christmas! Let's hope you climbing up his arse every few minutes doesn't make the seats too uncomfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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