dr_jekyll Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 do you think the 2jz is one of the best straight6 engines ever made ??? fill in the chart below with your thaughts Q. IS THE 2JZ ONE OF THE BEST L6 MOTERS EVER? A. if yes WHY. if no WHAT DO YOU THINK IS AND WHY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 yes. smooth, reliable, flexable, powerful, highly tunable, strong stock internals, easy to work on. done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 The GTE is fairly impressive for its age but without things like direct injection, VGT or twin charging it's hard to say it's the best now. The BMW 35i engine however is a modern unit with a lot to shout about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 It's one of the best, but not the best. I think the best is the BMW S54B32 engine, which is the 3.2Ltr straight 6 fitted to the M3 CSL. 360bhp N/A from 3.2ltr is stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 In stock form it is a very over engineered engine, and is very heavy, I guess it is just showing its age though really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 In stock form it is a very over engineered engine, and is very heavy, I guess it is just showing its age though really I think the over-engineering comes from Toyota wanting to enter the GT500 races with it, and the JGTC? Either way, it was ahead of it's time at launch, in 93. But, that was 16 years ago and technology has moved on massively since... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarrter21 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 maybe an aluminium block should be made.see how strong it is then!! will definatly be lighter at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 maybe an aluminium block should be made.see how strong it is then!! will definatly be lighter at least Way you go then, report back with your findings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 i still see it to be the easiest engine to make power from, regardless of weight and age, its still an impressive bit of kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 lets not overlook the cerbera speed six lump - sounds awesome, a little high maintenace but you cant argue with the figures. i'd agree with the facts, technology has moved on but i think the 2jz has a charector of its own. better is not always best, most modern engines lack a little soul. take the old lump out of the sd1, how many lives has that had! not that i have driven one but clarkson said that the new gtr lacked a soul, that the engine was flawless, perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think the over-engineering comes from Toyota wanting to enter the GT500 races with it, and the JGTC? Either way, it was ahead of it's time at launch, in 93. Not sure if the 2JZ-GTE was ever used in JGTC, most of them used the 3S-GTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 The 2JZ is an amazingly strong engine, it will easily run double the factory power on stock internals for years. I has an amazing reputation, dented for a while by some half witted muppet tuners, that were very popular here. At the other end of the spectrum it will deliver 1500bhp with uprated internals, that is 250 bhp per cylinder that is a massive figure for a 3 litre motor. Properly maintained in stock form it will see 300000 miles plus. Chris Wilson may be able to up date that figure. It may not have modern technology behind it but it still holds its own against modern straight 6, 3 litres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSK Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 It's one of the best, but not the best. I think the best is the BMW S54B32 engine, which is the 3.2Ltr straight 6 fitted to the M3 CSL. 360bhp N/A from 3.2ltr is stunning. I'd agree with this being a BMW fan and a previous owner of an M5 3.8 6cyl. BMW tend to do the the best inline 6cyl engines in terms of driveability and performance. Its about the only engine they every get right. They are decent enough but more fragile than what people would like to believe. The Supra's engine is impressive but if you take the 3.0ltr from an N/A and a 3.0ltr from the E36 M3 then its just lacking a touch but Toyota's stronger imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 i am a big fan of vtec 3.2 v6 nsx engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 i am a big fan of vtec 3.2 v6 nsx engine a great engine as all hondas are. but the v rules it out of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinboy Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I'm sorry but you might have as well asked 'supra's are nice cars really aren't they, yes or no'. Pretty obvious what the response would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 not nesciserily, ther could have been people that have had bad experince with them , as it goes so far they havent , becase theyr great but its jus chating about supras , in a forum called supra chat , so why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinboy Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 not nesciserily, ther could have been people that have had bad experince with them , as it goes so far they havent , becase theyr great but its jus chating about supras , in a forum called supra chat , so why not After reading that seven times through to get the gist of it, I can see where you are coming from but still think it smacks of back slapping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 After reading that seven times through to get the gist of it, I can see where you are coming from but still think it smacks of back slapping You are aware this is a Supra forum right SHOCK OF THE WEEK: I just went onto Drift Works and the guys over there were saying how great drifting is, bias bunch of inbreeds I tell ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 No-one mentioned the 1JZ yet? Shorter stroke, higher revving. The RB26DETT? Same again, mybe not quite as bonkers tough as the 2JZ but still capable of high power outputs without being opened up. The 2JZ has compromised exhaust ports for packaging purposes when compared with the RB26. Depends where you draw the line really, the Skyline engine has ITBs but is that classed as part of the 'engine'. What about stock cams? They choke up the engine dismally above 5,500rpm, boo. But out of all of them I do in the end like the 2JZ best due to the cheap easy power capabilities BMW straight 6, isn't that the worst sounding engine on the market today? And it eats its own valvetrain IIRC. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 BMW straight 6, isn't that the worst sounding engine on the market today? And it eats its own valvetrain IIRC. -Ian Nah, the Prius is the worst sounding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Mercedes have made some excellent straight 6 engines over the years, as have BMW. The 1JZ is a pretty good motor, although it's more comparable to the RB26 in its character and capability (although probably not quite as good from a performance perspective, stock or similarly tuned). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 nesciserily I do seriously weep for the future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I do seriously weep for the future! Don't cry, just pray Darwin was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 I do seriously weep for the future! it was trying to be said in the sarcastic style of the guy from blackadder. hence the c in ther, but nobody got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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