jackso11 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 If I were to change from an auto to a 5sp, would it be much work further down the line to change the 5sp to a 6sp? I want a manual and can't afford a 6sp right now but maybe in a year or so I could. 5sp parts total about £500 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Why not wait for a year and fit the 6 speed in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 because I want a manual now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Yes, you can do this. Going from 5spd to 6spd only needs a new gearbox, prop, diff and one driveshaft, all the "difficult" bits of the conversion are taken care of when you move to the 5spd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslb Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Yes, you can do this. Going from 5spd to 6spd only needs a new gearbox, prop, diff and one driveshaft, all the "difficult" bits of the conversion are taken care of when you move to the 5spd. Is it the same ECU for 5spd & 6spd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 because I want a manual now Have you driven a manual car? They are not the panacea that everybody thinks they are. I would personally not go back to a manual Supra now. I drove an auto for 4 years and a manual for 4 years both in various states of tune, and now Im back with an auto as the manual just didnt do it for me. Be very sure you want to go manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I had an NA manul for 4 years, not driven a TT manual though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 i have driven both . for me a supra has to be manual , didnt like the auto atall, autos are for luxury crusers like a bmw 5 or 7 series imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3DG3CKO ROB Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Have you driven a manual car? They are not the panacea that everybody thinks they are. I would personally not go back to a manual Supra now. I drove an auto for 4 years and a manual for 4 years both in various states of tune, and now Im back with an auto as the manual just didnt do it for me. Be very sure you want to go manual. very interesting comment. not really thought of that before... never driven a manual b4, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) For big power use a 6 speed,unless you can afford special auto box, power glyde, TH400, for anything else at street level, use an auto. Had both, and I would agree with John. Up to certain power levels an auto will accelerate faster than a 6 speed. If I purchase another MKIV for the street, it would be an auto. M5 is far from a cruiser BTW, it would wipe the floor with the majority of MKIV's. I think you really have to have driven both for some time, not just a test drive to really appreciate the difference and see how good the auto really is on the street. Edited October 8, 2009 by Terminator (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 you live in London and want a 6 manual, I would not bother The 6 speed is not a very nice box either, very clunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I concur with the above. My old supe was an auto, and I used it as an everyday car. It was a stock TT (not anymore though now Mark Newmans had his way with it ) and it was a beautiful drive. Stress free cruiser with the required perfomance when needed. I now have a 6sp BPU, the BPU 6sp is a much more hardcore car, and would no doubt do nothing but annoy the pants off me in stop start traffic. However this one is a weekend toy, so it's perfectly fit for purpose. It's a much more involved drive than the auto, but I'd not enjoy it as an everyday car. The 6sp box has quite close ratios, so I find you shift a fair bit more than you would a normal family saloon. If you use your car everyday and do a fair bit of stop start traffic, stick with the auto. If the supra is not your main form of transport, and you want a manual for a more involved drive, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I find the 6sp box needs a lot of attention if driving hard. The ratios are very close and you need to get in to the right gear first time otherwise you miss the best of the power band. You sit there wondering if 3rd or 4th will be the right ratio and then hit the wrong gear and wonder if you could have been quicker in a different gear. With an auto it has so much range in each gear you will almost never get caught out. You just use the OD off and 2nd on the auto box and it works like a charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 With an auto it has so much range in each gear you will almost never get caught out. You just use the OD off and 2nd on the auto box and it works like a charm. Ive started using my auto like above this year with 2 and OD etc and its such a better drive and you can use the box more to the way you want to rather than just waiting for it to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I had auto (tiptronic but the same thing). I only went manual as I'm going single. The auto was great and the 6 speed is hard work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Is it the same ECU for 5spd & 6spd? There is not gear box control on a 5 or 6 speed, so your ecu is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 For big power use a 6 speed,unless you can afford special auto box, power glyde, TH400, for anything else at street level, use an auto. Had both, and I would agree with John. Up to certain power levels an auto will accelerate faster than a 6 speed. If I purchase another MKIV for the street, it would be an auto. M5 is far from a cruiser BTW, it would wipe the floor with the majority of MKIV's. I think you really have to have driven both for some time, not just a test drive to really appreciate the difference and see how good the auto really is on the street. not an m5 thas a different animal just a 5 series , i own a manual and my father owned a tt auto an i was regularly in both , manual for me every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I seem to remember reading that the the auto ecu pulls some timing at gear change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Found it - point 8 at the bottom http://mkiv.com/techarticles/auto_to_6spd_swap/inside/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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