Taking delivery of a Porsche 928 Sat is that a good move !

[tooquicktostop]

I have agreed a purchase of a 1991 Porsche 928 S4 1991 with only 86,000 miles from a Porsche dealer this week, have I purchased a legend or have I a lot to worry about, I have owned a 911 and 944 and found them to be great fun, as my GF can only drive an Auto this seemed like a good option for fun and power with an auto box, good idea or bail out ??

[JamieP]

Have you had a go in it?

[b_have]

I had three S4s in the 90's, loved them!

[mkirby]

theres one round the corner from me which the guy is doing up the bodywork but he starts it every weekend and it sounds amazing

[stevie_b]

I think Dave K on here might have a 928, might be worth a PM.

[Ewen]

Beautiful looking car...the nicest Porsche ever made IMO.

[Jonny5]

theres one round the corner from me which the guy is doing up the bodywork but he starts it every weekend and it sounds amazing

 

Hey Mike, thats one of the guys from work lol...he bought it as a restoration project, but found out later on it is registered as a cat b, so has to be sold as parts..

 

so tooquicktostop if you need any bits I can put you in touch..

 

cheers Jon;)

[MRX]

Got any pics?

[Marco]

"Lets go Mr Driver!"

 

http://www.fraserking.co.uk/arcade/screenshots/chase-hq-4.png

[tooquicktostop]

Have you had a go in it?

 

Drive one years ago, not that quick but I love the retro looks

 

I looked at several options 456 Ferrari and a Masarati 3500 but the Porsche won me over, wont be a daily driver

[caseys]

"Lets go Mr Driver!"

 

http://www.fraserking.co.uk/arcade/screenshots/chase-hq-4.png

 

 

I f***ing loved that game.

 

Nice looking 928 you may have yourself there! Would still like to own a Ferrari one day myself.

[stevie_b]

I like the look of that Porker a lot! It reminds me of a matchbox toy car I had when I was a lad. I used to push that thing around, making "brrmm" noises.... happy days!

[Havard]

I think Dave K on here might have a 928, might be worth a PM.

 

Dave's got a 964 and a 996 Turbo.

 

The 928 looks great....

 

H.

[jevansio]

I'd love one of these but have never dared take the plunge due to the stories you hear. Best partenership ever, V8 + Porsche , I'd like to hear how you get on with it though

[tooquicktostop]

I'd love one of these but have never dared take the plunge due to the stories you hear. Best partenership ever, V8 + Porsche , I'd like to hear how you get on with it though

 

MMmm you are right, some real expensive horror stories if you look for them, service history is the key I think, a lot of these have been through many many owners and they are not looked after, this is were the problems start

 

This one has a full 12 month warrenty with the garage

 

I will do less than 4000 mile a year and I can't see it depreciating much further if I look after it, saying that I never keep anything for long !!

[imi]

for its age it looks fantastic.

[jevansio]

Is that red one you posted the one, or just an example, looks great in red (unusual for a Porsche)

 

I'd like a Scarface S2

 

PS can I ask how much?

[Chris Wilson]

The wife had one for about 18 months and she loved it. I hated it as it gave a load of grief (both heads off for valve guide wear and stem seals, new belts needed, lots of niggling or even car stopping electrical problems (tip, change ALL the critical relays in the vast electric box under the passengers feet for new, they age with the heat and fail, suddenly and inconveniently). The torque tube bearings go so you get a constant rumbling, and a new tube is mega money, although I now have access to a special tool we made to renew just the bearings which sorts them. It uses a Merc auto box if it's an automatic, and by default the damned things start off in second unless you kick down. This makes them feel very sluggish. To check auto box fluid levels means getting under the car, preferably on a ramp, so they don't get checked, with consequent spectacularly expensive auto box failures. Manuals are a lot more reliable, but the change is slow as, like the auto box, it's at the back of the car, so the clutch and synchros have to contend with the inertia of the propshaft when changing gear.

 

They look nice, don't rust much, but unless you have the big brake option don't stop very well, and tired dampers and bushes kill the quite good handling they had when fresh. A good motorway cruiser if you can feed their prodigious thirst. You'll soon be wondering where the missing horses are though, and you'll be on Christian name terms with all the petrol pump kiosk attendants DON'T let it overheat, the rads are prone to leak and corrode, VERY expensive, and often bodged. If it smokes don't buy it, it's got Nikasil bores and iron plated pistons, so they can't be rebored. Smoke is BAAAD!!! Oh, and if the vac operated heater controls and air con ALL work properly it's a bleedin' miracle, and will save you a LOT of dosh. Hope I haven't worried you, but they are money eaters and not at all reliable. I have a friend who is obsessed by them, but even he admits he could have bought 2 NSX's on the strength of maintaining them over the years.

[michael]

The wife had one for about 18 months and she loved it. I hated it as it gave a load of grief (both heads off for valve guide wear and stem seals, new belts needed, lots of niggling or even car stopping electrical problems (tip, change ALL the critical relays in the vast electric box under the passengers feet for new, they age with the heat and fail, suddenly and inconveniently). The torque tube bearings go so you get a constant rumbling, and a new tube is mega money, although I now have access to a special tool we made to renew just the bearings which sorts them. It uses a Merc auto box if it's an automatic, and by default the damned things start off in second unless you kick down. This makes them feel very sluggish. To check auto box fluid levels means getting under the car, preferably on a ramp, so they don't get checked, with consequent spectacularly expensive auto box failures. Manuals are a lot more reliable, but the change is slow as, like the auto box, it's at the back of the car, so the clutch and synchros have to contend with the inertia of the propshaft when changing gear.

 

They look nice, don't rust much, but unless you have the big brake option don't stop very well, and tired dampers and bushes kill the quite good handling they had when fresh. A good motorway cruiser if you can feed their prodigious thirst. You'll soon be wondering where the missing horses are though, and you'll be on Christian name terms with all the petrol pump kiosk attendants DON'T let it overheat, the rads are prone to leak and corrode, VERY expensive, and often bodged. If it smokes don't buy it, it's got Nikasil bores and iron plated pistons, so they can't be rebored. Smoke is BAAAD!!! Oh, and if the vac operated heater controls and air con ALL work properly it's a bleedin' miracle, and will save you a LOT of dosh. Hope I haven't worried you, but they are money eaters and not at all reliable. I have a friend who is obsessed by them, but even he admits he could have bought 2 NSX's on the strength of maintaining them over the years.

 

But apart from all that you'd have one in the blink of an eye?

[little num]

lol chris thats a good read, what suprised me you say you only had it for 18months and all this went wrong lol, good cars then.

[Chris Wilson]

She got a Soarer after that, which was 100% reliable and really a modern day 928, IMO. Plus it would have towed a none GT 928 faster than it could go on a good day I am damned if she still doesn't occasionally say she wants another though. She can buy one with a warranty as I won't be wasting weeks of my time keeping it running for free

[tooquicktostop]

The wife had one for about 18 months and she loved it. I hated it as it gave a load of grief (both heads off for valve guide wear and stem seals, new belts needed, lots of niggling or even car stopping electrical problems (tip, change ALL the critical relays in the vast electric box under the passengers feet for new, they age with the heat and fail, suddenly and inconveniently). The torque tube bearings go so you get a constant rumbling, and a new tube is mega money, although I now have access to a special tool we made to renew just the bearings which sorts them. It uses a Merc auto box if it's an automatic, and by default the damned things start off in second unless you kick down. This makes them feel very sluggish. To check auto box fluid levels means getting under the car, preferably on a ramp, so they don't get checked, with consequent spectacularly expensive auto box failures. Manuals are a lot more reliable, but the change is slow as, like the auto box, it's at the back of the car, so the clutch and synchros have to contend with the inertia of the propshaft when changing gear.

 

They look nice, don't rust much, but unless you have the big brake option don't stop very well, and tired dampers and bushes kill the quite good handling they had when fresh. A good motorway cruiser if you can feed their prodigious thirst. You'll soon be wondering where the missing horses are though, and you'll be on Christian name terms with all the petrol pump kiosk attendants DON'T let it overheat, the rads are prone to leak and corrode, VERY expensive, and often bodged. If it smokes don't buy it, it's got Nikasil bores and iron plated pistons, so they can't be rebored. Smoke is BAAAD!!! Oh, and if the vac operated heater controls and air con ALL work properly it's a bleedin' miracle, and will save you a LOT of dosh. Hope I haven't worried you, but they are money eaters and not at all reliable. I have a friend who is obsessed by them, but even he admits he could have bought 2 NSX's on the strength of maintaining them over the years.

 

Thanks for such a detailed reply

 

Sounds just like owning a Single Supra then

 

I have full expectations that it will burn cash if it goes wrong, I am hoping the car is one of the better ones looking at the service history it has !

I still think it will be cheaper to maintain than the Ferrari 456 or the Maserati ?

 

As for fuel, I have been driving a E55 AMG for a few months and I have never seen fuel consumption like it, dreadful !

 

I do feel your post has given me a little more knowledge to perhaps help get the price down a little more

[Chris Wilson]

lol chris thats a good read, what suprised me you say you only had it for 18months and all this went wrong lol, good cars then.

 

She did clock

up quite a lot of miles, but they are old cars and very complex.

[tooquicktostop]

Is that red one you posted the one, or just an example, looks great in red (unusual for a Porsche)

 

I'd like a Scarface S2

 

PS can I ask how much?

 

Almost 9K which is a lot for one of these, they are out there for way less but that worries me with such an expensive machine !

[Chris Wilson]

Tell me you are joking please £9K? Is it ultra low mileage with full Porsche main dealer history or something? It'll do no more to the gallon than the Merc, probably less as the technology is a LOT older.