a98pmalcolm Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 hay guys, just wondering what peoples opinions on carbom bonnets are? Im quite interested in the abflug one which is this one http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3039/bonnetq.th.jpg and this is my car http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8903/14072009275.th.jpg http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3294/14072009276.th.jpg coold thing i was thinking aswell is that it would mach the carbon on my TRD spoiler. And most importantly reduce weight. Its not just a standard carbon bonnet either its a new type of carbon called Hybrid Carbon so its lighter than the normal carbon bonnets. Thoughts? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shane_ Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 get a few pics photoshopped to help ya make up your mind mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I've been thinking of a carbon bonnet and boot lately , but my thoughts were weight saving and nothing more, I'm not to keen on naked carbon bonnets and boots so I was going to have them sprayed ! Each to there own though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 well i found a few blue supras with the carbon bonnets, looks quite cool but no wow factor http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2276/3097930279large.th.jpg http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1986/supra01.th.jpg and the bonnet i like sprayed http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9937/absprayed.th.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 you will not drop the weight much (if at all) with a carbon bonnet as the stock comes in from memory at 11kg, being ally they are surprisingly light when you lift them off, the other thing i dont like is i have yet to see any aftermarket bonnet that fits properly and with carbon you have no chance of rectifying any issues without ruining the effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 IMO it depends on the look of the car, i dont think it would suit your car personally, i would spend the money changing the wheels if it was my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I am not a big fan of carbon bonnets too ... unless you have a black car where it does not stand off too much. As already said, if weight saving is you aim, forget it. The aluminium standard bonnet isn't that heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I like carbon bonnets....... if they're painted. I think the whole carbon / matt bonnet is very dated and Fast and Furious stylee. Just my 2p worth though, everyone likes different things. I'd say leave it as it is, but it's your car, do what you think looks nice to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) I like carbon bonnets....... if they're painted. Why have one if you think you'll paint it though? It's a serious question. I thought there are 2 reasons why people fit carbon bonnets: 1) to save weight 2) to look good. If you paint it, surely you negate most of (2): it'll look similar (not the same) to the rest of panels if you paint it in the same colour, and IMO it'll look like a panel replacement done on the cheap if you paint it a different colour. I can't comment on (1) because I haven't compared weights, but if I was spending a few hundred pounds on a body panel for a specific purpose (i.e. saving weight), I'd want to know that it was fit for that purpose in the first place (i.e. significantly lighter than the stock part). Other replies on here suggest that they might not be much lighter. Carbom Edited August 20, 2009 by stevie_b (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 IMO it depends on the look of the car, i dont think it would suit your car personally, i would spend the money changing the wheels if it was my car but i want to be different u know its me if u see the car with the blue wheels...didnt wanna go for silver or black rims..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Keep the bonnet as it is and maybe add a UK scoop?? Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Carbon bonnets are close to becoming retro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I can't comment on (1) because I haven't compared weights, but if I was spending a few hundred pounds on a body panel for a specific purpose (i.e. saving weight), I'd want to know that it was fit for that purpose in the first place (i.e. significantly lighter than the stock part). Other replies on here suggest that they might not be much lighter. i think this really is a very popular misconception, everyone knows (thinks) carbon is light but the reality is that applys to the mega expensive baked in an autoclave (vacuum oven) stuff, the carbon we get is largely wet lay which is basically glorified fibre glass, although this is a bit unfair as you can make wet lay carbon a bit lighter than fibreglass due its better better strength. With a bonnet the other thing is just how light the stock item is, if it were made in steel (with the reinforced hinges it would also require) it would probably come it at over 30 kg so the carbon (or fibre glass) would represent a good saving, however take a stock bonnet off and for their size they are laughably light at 11kg, carbon fibre 8 - 9 kg, throw in a set of the inevitable bonnet pins to make sure the ill fitting thing doesn't fly off at speed and your pretty much back to square one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The KnightRacer carbon ones are 6kg IIRC, if you remove the OEM latch system & replace with pins there should be a good 5kg saving, not great I know but at least it's coming off the correct end of the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The KnightRacer carbon ones are 6kg IIRC, if you remove the OEM latch system & replace with pins there should be a good 5kg saving, not great I know but at least it's coming off the correct end of the car thats not to bad a weight saving i was going off the findings on SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 That's aslong as KR are telling the truth about the weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Carbon fibre was meant to be painted over, but some people liked to show off that they had carbon fibre pannels, so left the weave showing. If you're not obsessed with weight saving, but like the look of it, then go for it, as people have said the standard bonnet isn't that heavy. It's down to personal choice though. I like the look of cabon fibre on some cars, but not on others. Think of your car as a whole, and not by each seperate part, and aim for a certain look and stick with it, otherwise you may end up with lots of random parts ruining the look of your Supe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) yer its knight racer im in contact with! there using the hybrid carbon which is lighter than the standard carbon thisis what the spent there time (kindly) explaining: But now, we have discontinued that range of carbon as we have developed a new type of carbon which we call "Hybrid Carbon". Regular carbon bonnets which you find on the market now are only real carbon on the surface under the gel coat, if you looked on the underside of the bonnet you will see a thick layer of fibreglass and a fibreglass skeleton. Overall weight is often not much less than the standard, and in some applications even heavier. Approximately 10-20 percent is carbon fibre. Hybrid Carbon bonnets use a real carbon skin, with our new Hybrid Resin which is a lot stronger, shock resistant, and requires no extra fibreglass re-enforcement meaning it is significantly lighter than regular carbon bonnets. Only the skeleton is FRP. Approximately 75-80% is real carbon fibre. In our top of the range "Hybrid Carbon COMPLETE" even the skeleton is real carbon fibre, making the complete construction 100% carbon fibre. so its a good quality one. also the air scoops will help cool the engine down, also has the exits for heat...helping in performance (not alot) but every bit helps! if the carbon look does go out of "supra fashion" as such and i my self go of i can get it sprayed for 150 diblets! Edited August 20, 2009 by a98pmalcolm (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinboy Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Totally depends upon what you like but then that's always the case. Personally, i've toyed with the idea of a CF bonnet but have come to the conclusion that it would be a bit too much really - I mean looks wise not cost (although now i think on, not cheap either!) Would always be a cosmetic thing though, not about weight saving although I'm suprised the difference is as negligible as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimojameso Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I like blue cars with carbon bonnets. Try it carbon and if you go off it you can always paint it later!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I don't think 5kg is worth saving for the money, unless it's part of a whole weight-saving initiative. That's only 0.3% of the car's weight. You could probably save double that by using a lightweight battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Why have one if you think you'll paint it though? It's a serious question. Carbom Well for me the only reason I would buy a carbon bonnet is if it was part of a group of other replacement weight saving parts and my goal was to shed as much weight from the car as possible. I wouldn't buy one purely from an aesthetic point of view. I'd paint it because I don't like the look of carbon fibre bonnets left as they are.... some people like them, some don't EDIT : Just noticed that's pretty much what Tannhauser said lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) lol thanks for all the thoughts guys really mixed views.....i think im goin to go for it as i really like the design of the bonnet so either was its a winner...try it as carbon then maybe paint it in the future! I'll post pics up if i do go for it in a new thread! But only post a reply in the thread if there nice replys hehe Thanks again all...feel free to keep posting replys up Thanks as always Paul Edited August 20, 2009 by a98pmalcolm typo lol (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 In the end, it's your decision. If you like it, then go for it. And don't forget the pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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