Jamesy Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 My point was that there are only a handful of movies that have been banned, and of them was about real terrorist executions etc, so for something to be banned it must be pretty damn bad. "Bambi" should have been banned but it wasn't (sick film that ruined my childhood) - some DO slip under the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Does not matter Blackie. My question is still relevant. I think it probably helps people confront and deal with aspects of 'the darker side of life'. I think themes of a more morbid nature help people become more balanced in our approach to life. Not really why I love horror films. I just like being scared I also love the techniques directors use to make us scared as an audience. One of my favourite horror films of all time is the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I've seen it countless times and still find it difficult to watch. The genius of the film is that this is very little blood, violence or gore. Tobe Hooper (director) manages to convey absolute terror by using a few choice camera angles and a bunch of hill billys The current crop of torture porn really isn't my bag. I do like to see 'what all the fuss is about' though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 "Bambi" should have been banned but it wasn't (sick film that ruined my childhood) - some DO slip under the radar. It would have saved many a tear that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Can I make a complaint about certification and how it works in this thread? Sure, knock yourself out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 My point was that there are only a handful of movies that have been banned, and of them was about real terrorist executions etc, so for something to be banned it must be pretty damn bad. I think it's the context of the film that caused the banning - there isn't any. It's basically two people being tortured, mutilated and finally killed for the kicks of the perpetrators. I think the writers tried to cash in on the Hostel/Saw thing, but forgot to add a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Not really why I love horror films. I just like being scared It takes a really really well made film to actually make people scared. Most stuff is just shock, people jumping out from behind a doors etc when you don't expect it. Since my childhood i don't think i've been genuinely scared much. It had to be at the cinema for me as well. I think 'the strangers' was the last one i saw at the cinema which was actually quite scarey in moments, because it could actually happen. All time biggest drop a brick fest for me was sitting on the front row of The Blair Witch Project. Genius film, possible the best film ever made for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 My point was that there are only a handful of movies that have been banned, and of them was about real terrorist executions etc, so for something to be banned it must be pretty damn bad. Or realistic? This is going to happen more as special effects get better and better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Or realistic? This is going to happen more as special effects get better and better I agree that things are going to get more shocking, but if you know what you are watching is actually real it's a totally different ball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 It takes a really really well made film to actually make people scared. Most stuff is just shock, people jumping out from behind a doors etc when you don't expect it. That's the same for me - and probably every other horror fan. The first horror I remember being absolutely terrified by was The Evil Dead when I was about 12 (I watched it at my Granddads house, parents went insane ). After that I was on a life long quest to find the next film that would terrify me. ..and to date nothing much has. Obviously The Exorcist and Texas Chainsaw left their mark, but nothing 'modern' really touches them for me. I love Blair Witch and [REC], but the Saw/Hostel films are either just uncomfortable or laughable. All Zombie films rock, but I don't really consider them horror.. they're like documentaries to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I love Blair Witch and [REC], but the Saw/Hostel films are either just uncomfortable or laughable. All Zombie films rock, but I don't really consider them horror.. they're like documentaries to me I watched [REC] didn't think much of that one due to the acting from the cast. Saw wasn't a horror film for me. Pyschological Thriller with some moderate gore (pretty bad at the time though) Hostel was above average in story line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Anyone seen last house on the left (the original)? SPOILER!!!!!!! ALERT!!!!!!!! Why would anyone want to watch a young girl being raped and piss herself? Movies are all about stirring emotions & feelings along with getting your mind and thoughts involved. It does not matter the content of the movie, only that it does in fact stimulate your brain. Another SPOILER ALERT!! Anyone seen Taken? At the end of that movie i felt genuine satisfaction as the actions in the movie are what i would take if i had the skill and that happened to me. Death, murder, torture its all OK to watch as long as it has a point. How many people viewed sadam being hung? Is it ok to watch that as he was a murdering bastard? Everyone is a hypocrite nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Sure, knock yourself out 12A. What is all that about. Went to see HP last week and there were a few *very* young children in there, I'd say about 4. 1. How would they even grasp the concept of Harry Potter and it's teenager content. 2. What were their parents thinking taking them to see it. 3. What is the point of a 12A film certification. If a child of any age can see it with an adult (that is stupid enough to take them to see it at the age of 4)? GRRRRRRR. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Anyone seen last house on the left (the original)? Anyone seen Taken? At the end of that movie i felt genuine satisfaction as the actions in the movie are what i would take if i had the skill and that happened to me. That's it - the setup, then the pay off - that's your gratification. The more gratuitous the crime, the sweeter the revenge. Tarrentino has based his whole career on it. Check out 'I Spit On Your Grave' for more exploitation craziness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 12A. What is all that about. Went to see HP last week and there were a few *very* young children in there, I'd say about 4. 1. How would they even grasp the concept of Harry Potter and it's teenager content. 2. What were their parents thinking taking them to see it. 3. What is the point of a 12A film certification. If a child of any age can see it with an adult (that is stupid enough to take them to see it at the age of 4)? GRRRRRRR. Thanks. 18 is the same unfortunately. You can take a child in to see an 18 certifiate movie. 12A just means if you are 12 or under you need an adult. 12 means if you are 12 you don't, under you still do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 12A. What is all that about. Went to see HP last week and there were a few *very* young children in there, I'd say about 4. 1. How would they even grasp the concept of Harry Potter and it's teenager content. That's the other aspect of the film industy.... MONEY! This is all about bums on seats at the end of the day No-one really gives a toss who see's it or what it's about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 That's it - the setup, then the pay off - that's your gratification. The more gratuitous the crime, the sweeter the revenge. Tarrentino has based his whole career on it. Check out 'I Spit On Your Grave' for more exploitation craziness I've seen i spit on your grave and while the acts were absolutely shocking i dont think i have seen anything quite as visually degrading as the last house on the left. It actually shocked me a little and i've seen some pretty grim stuff lol. My wife turned to me and said "why the hell would you choose to put this on" as if i knew what it was all about. The sad truth is true life is depicted in movies like that. Life really can be that gruesome at times. For that reason alone i don't think there should be certification boundaries with movies like that. Its life, there are people like this in the world, don't hide from it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 18 is the same unfortunately. You can take a child in to see an 18 certifiate movie. 12A just means if you are 12 or under you need an adult. 12 means if you are 12 you don't, under you still do. What? You can take a child to see an 18 - I don't think so?! 12A is the age of 12 or younger if you are accompanied by an adult and that adult exercises discretion, except, none of them do. http://www.bbfc.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 That's the other aspect of the film industy.... MONEY! This is all about bums on seats at the end of the day No-one really gives a toss who see's it or what it's about. I never actually thought of that one. That is such a good point. What really is the point of 12A movies, its not as if your 12 year old is going to be at the cinema without your knowledge so the only other conclusion is.... money! Almost like a 1 for 2 deal lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 What? You can take a child to see an 18 - I don't think so?! 12A is the age of 12 or younger if you are accompanied by an adult and that adult exercises discretion, except, none of them do. http://www.bbfc.co.uk/ Don't need to believe it if you don't want to but its a fact. If you want to take your child into an 18 you can. Its a parents right to bring up their child as they see fit. There have been a few references in cartoons and movies, one that comes off the top of the head is south park where they pay a bum to pose as their parents as the movie is R rated (i think thats an american 18). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Don't need to believe it if you don't want to but its a fact. If you want to take your child into an 18 you can. Its a parents right to bring up their child as they see fit. Do you really think you can take a child into a cinema and take it to an 18 film? It's not an adult accompany thing - no one younger than 18 can see an 18. Yes, I appreciate people 'sneak' in, in the same way I used to. But I'm talking about an actual child, not a teenager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Do you really think you can take a child into a cinema and take it to an 18 film? It's not an adult accompany thing - no one younger than 18 can see an 18. Yes, I appreciate people 'sneak' in, in the same way I used to. But I'm talking about an actual child, not a teenager. Yes you can lol. Can you rent an 18 at the videoshop and take it home for your 4 year old? Of course you can. Can an under 18 legally drink in their own house under parental supervision? Yes. Smoke - yes. Under 16 with the last 2 can mean jail time though as its a form of neglect and cruelty. Noone in their right mind is going to take an 8 year old into an 18 though. I went into an 18 with my dad when i was 15 but thats obviously just some poetic license on my dad's part. If your parents are ok with it and its not abusive to the child (age dependant i would think) then its perfectly reasonable. How many under 12's do you see in the cinema at 12 and over movies with their parents? How many under 12's do you think have seen harry potter in the cinema? Its not one rule for one and another for the others. Its across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Do you really think you can take a child into a cinema and take it to an 18 film? It's not an adult accompany thing - no one younger than 18 can see an 18. Yes, I appreciate people 'sneak' in, in the same way I used to. But I'm talking about an actual child, not a teenager. I'm not sure on that one? Is it a guidance thing or is a case of the picture house losing their license(?) if a minor were to see an 18 rated film? Like a pub loses their licenses for serving under age? Interesting point. I might try and take one of my nieces to see Inglorious Bastards and see what they say (joke btw ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Yes you can lol. Can you rent an 18 at the videoshop and take it home for your 4 year old? Of course you can. I think Charlotte meant at an actual cinema, obviously all bets are off with rentals - which is why they used to hike the rating when a film went to video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I'm not sure on that one? Is it a guidance thing or is a case of the picture house losing their license(?) if a minor were to see an 18 rated film? Like a pub loses their licenses for serving under age? Interesting point. I might try and take one of my nieces to see Inglorious Bastards and see what they say (joke btw ) Depending on the license of the pub under 18's can drink with permission of the parents. I think they have to be either over 14 or 16 and are allowed he equivilant of 1 glass of wine. Pretty sure thats a restaurant license though. If an under 18 bought a ticket at a cinema they could lose their license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I think Charlotte meant at an actual cinema, obviously all bets are off with rentals - which is why they used to hike the rating when a film went to video. Its the same train of thought though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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