Mike Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 A Japanese horror film, Grotesque, has been refused an 18 certificate by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) because of its graphic torture scenes. Linky and here Its "unacceptable content", he added, meant cuts were "not a viable option". Interestingly this is only the fourth film to be banned in the last ten years. Hopefully this isn't the beginning of a new 'video nasty' era. We're all grown ups, do we need censorship? I think 'guidance' is enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Guidance is plenty and always has been in my opinion. Who should govern what i should and should not watch? Some people get put off by gore, so they don't watch gore films. I don't see the problem to be honest. Films that were banned years ago have been realeased and i have seen them as rather weak... the exorcist for one. Regardless it will just make the film popular, its not exactly going to stop anyone who wants to see it from seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Where can I get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Where can I get it? Lots of places have this on offer.... seemingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Lots of places have this on offer.... seemingly Subtitled? I would look myself but I'm trying to do work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Certain things should be banned yes. If the BBFC have to actualy ban something, which they rarely do, then it must be pretty f"cked up. I can only imagine that seriously messed up individuals would want to watch something like real life execution compliations, so those types of people shouldn't be feed. If something is banned, it may stop the insane producers from making stuff like that in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I found the german one in about 2 seconds Just need english subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Regardless it will just make the film popular, its not exactly going to stop anyone who wants to see it from seeing it. It's literally the best thing you could hope for in terms of publicity. People will really want to see this now. If they'd have passed it, no-one would know about it and no-one would see it. It must be fairly nasty if they pass things like Saw through (uncut) into the mass market - those films are ridiculous. Hostel 2 was off the scale for me. Torture porn seems to be the horror flavour of choice these days. Whatever happened to a masked man with a chainsaw running after some honey? Now that's proper horror The Exorcist was excellent, but shouldn't have been banned, and I don't really consider it a 'horror' film. More a thriller with an 'occult' theme. Cracking movie all the same. I'll never not be shocked by the crucifix scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 *cough* http://subscene.com/english/Grotesque-Gurotesku/subtitle-247272.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Certain things should be banned yes. If the BBFC have to actualy ban something, which they rarely do, then it must be pretty f"cked up. I can only imagine that seriously messed up individuals would want to watch something like real life execution compliations, so those types of people shouldn't be feed. If something is banned, it may stop the insane producers from making stuff like that in the future. Where do you draw the line? I have no problem if people want to watch executions and the like - as long as it's clearly labelled and I know not to rent it, I'm fine. It's just one of the many colours of this world we live in. It's not very nice, and not to everyone's taste, but who are we to say whether someone should watch something or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Downloading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Where do you draw the line? I have no problem if people want to watch executions and the like - as long as it's clearly labelled and I know not to rent it, I'm fine. It's just one of the many colours of this world we live in. It's not very nice, and not to everyone's taste, but who are we to say whether someone should watch something or not. I read that the reason why films like saw and hostel get through is because there have a story line and are genuiely entertaining (the first ones anyway ), but that one and the other mentioned on the BBC is simply just an excuse to feed sickos dark sexual abuse desires. I'd have to watch it to make my mind up, but that would go against the banning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I have no problem if people want to watch executions and the like. I remember once on a job a long time ago, a guy said here look at this... He then showed me a be-heading of an american soldier by terrorists. It was horrific and this chap was treating it as entertainment; someones son, a human, a friend. I certainly have a problem with people who would want to watch that kind of stuff, or use it as 'entertainment'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 I remember once on a job a long time ago, a guy said here look at this... He then showed me a be-heading of an american soldier by terrorists. It was horrific and this chap was treating it as entertainment; someones son, a human, a friend. I certainly have a problem with people who would want to watch that kind of stuff, or use it as 'entertainment'. You can't account for the 'application' of any material. I'm sure lots of peados get off on watching CBeebies. What can you do? Avoid idiots like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I already have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 i already have it AIDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 I already have it AIDs? Matt you are officially 14 years old. I got the film last night... had a flick through this morning. Nothing shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Downloading from where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Matt you are officially 14 years old. Strange, my birth certificate officially works my age out to be 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 from where? http://www.sicktwistedreclusivebastardswithsocialissuesandmostlikelytogetoffoveranimalswhiledreamingupamassacreintheirworkplace.com/grotesque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Certain things should be banned yes. If the BBFC have to actualy ban something, which they rarely do, then it must be pretty f"cked up. A Clockwork Orange was banned and that wasn't so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I got the film last night... had a flick through this morning. Nothing shocking. Is it subbed? I want to see it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 A Clockwork Orange was banned and that wasn't so bad. that was in the 70's though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 http://www.sicktwistedreclusivebastardswithsocialissuesandmostlikelytogetoffoveranimalswhiledreamingupamassacreintheirworkplace.com/grotesque Cheers Its not "Actual" Killing in it, Its Just a very well made horror film.If it was real killing i would agree with the "sicktwistedreclusivebastardswithsocialissuesandmostlikelytogetoffoveranimalswhiledreamingupamassacreintheirworkplace" but its pure fantasy, As people said above, Clockwork orange was banned, Nothing bad in it, The exorsist was banned, nothing really bad. There is prob a Mary whitehouse type person in the censorship department who has over reacted. EDIT: Just seen the above post re Clockwork orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Opinion on what is "the limit" is pushed more and more. I agree that films with real life human killing in them should not be made... but then assisted suicide documentaries are exactly that! Therefore, there has to be an educated (e.g. not Matt H's *) decision on this. Also, to say the Hostel has a plot is borderline madness! It's awful. I watch porn with more plot structure! Normally, this kind of film would go unnoticed. Now, it's going to get a larger cult following than it would have if it had just been passed... Has anyone seen Cannibal Holocaust? *sicktwistedreclusivebastardswithsocialissuesandmostlikelytogetoffoveranimalswhiledreamingupamassacreintheirworkplace - what on earth do you mean "getting off over animals whilst dreaming up massacre in the workplace"? Doesn't make sense to me... what's with the animals? Or do you mean, getting off over Animal? *AIDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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