bens747 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Who is voting for who? Personally if Labour get back in ... we are all screwed and it won't be worth living in this God forsaken crap hole anymore ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradibbs Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 could not agree me me old mate True Blue baby!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 i got a voting thread mate...look it up and vote on it, good news is, labour arent winning that thread either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Monster Raving Loony Cant stand another 5 years of Labour and cant forgive the tories for the damage they've done to this country. Lib Dems would be nice, but Mr Kennedy seems to be aiming his policies at NME readers rather than people in the real world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Think there should be a box on the voting form to say ' None of the above' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Labour I don't know why you think the Conservatives would do any better, maybe we need a different system and have a combination of poilicies. Each political party will do things that you agree with and others that you dont, it all depends on where your priorities are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I doubt the Conservative party will be about after the next election They've been in decline for years with completely inept leaders and dreadful policy. So what do they do, try to appeal to the lowest common denomenator all the time, anti immigrant, speed camera, Europe etc.. they're living in the past. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I don't see how any person who values their motoring freedom can vote for labour !? They are the most anti-motorist government that have ever been in power ! True that the conservatives introduced the fuel tax increments but this was only to goto a certain level. But when labour got it they more or less doubled the tax levvies and kept incresing them until they sparked off the fuel protests. They still have no plans whatsoever to stop or reduce the amount of tax on fuel...... if you drive a car how can you vote for labour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VELOCITY Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Who is voting for who? Personally if Labour get back in ... we are all screwed and it won't be worth living in this God forsaken crap hole anymore ...... HERE HERE!!! Higher petrol prices and tax!!! Let alone the NHS and Education!! or lack of it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens747 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Look at it this way guys. I put in £40 petrol in me Soop. Really I've only put in £10 cos that fat bastard has taken £30 off me for the privalidge. And I've just had to fix me exhaust cos of the continuous assault course on the roads. Get the f*ckers out is what I say if you value ur motoring experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 its more tax than that actually !! Look at it this way.... say you earn £1000 to pay for you years fuel cost. you have to pay about 25% combined in both income and nhs taxes. This leaves you with £750. You then goto the petrol station over the months and pay for fuel at a staggering 75% fuel tax rate !! So £562 is paid straight to the government leaving you with £188 worth of actual fuel !! So if you look at your actual fuel cost in relation to what you earnt to spend on fuel then you can see what a complete set of ba$tards this government are !! You earn £1000..... you pay £812 in tax to the government and you get £188 worth of fuel at the end of it all !! All I can say is vote with your head and make your vote worth it.... ie. vote tactically to get this robbing government out of power ! check this out.. http://www.abd.org.uk/taxtable.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Out of interest what happens to your vote if you don't vote at all? It's not so much voter apathy, as nobody deserves my vote, so I'm not going to give it to any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Flash Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Think there should be a box on the voting form to say ' None of the above' Agree in full with this! Many a "discussion" had along the lines of ".... thats wasting your vote etc ..." - but isn't it a better use of your individual right to not help any of them if you so choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennMR2 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Out of interest what happens to your vote if you don't vote at all? It's not so much voter apathy, as nobody deserves my vote, so I'm not going to give it to any of them. i 2nd that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 According to this link I need to vote Conservative: http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com I have 4 choices in my local area: BNP Lib Dems Conservative Labour A few miles away they have the choice of 6 different liars rather than 4 - I think it's wrong that I can only vote for a small selection when I might want to vote for one of the others really.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 people who choose not to vote are indeed wasting it.... just because a single party doesn't have all the policies you want you can use your vote to vote against the party that has all the policies you hate. Whats the point in complaining about this that and the other, wishing the government did things differently and then not using your voting powers to get them out !? if you don't vote then you have no right to complain about things is my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Flash Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I thake that point - and accept it to a point... but by that logic, say you vote for the Tories - and they win !! - does that mean you can't complain about anything they end up doing as you used your vote to help get the others out? **Apologies in advance - am having a crap day in the office** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Apparently I should vote Lib Dem. "You should vote: Liberal Democrat The LibDems take a strong stand against tax cuts and a strong one in favour of public services: they would make long-term residential care for the elderly free across the UK, and scrap university tuition fees. They are in favour of a ban on smoking in public places, but would relax laws on cannabis. They propose to change vehicle taxation to be based on usage rather than ownership" That last bit is news to me. That'll be GPS systems in all cars, then..? A real vote-winner, that. NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens747 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 I'd rather vote for a dead screeming Lord Sutch than this shady lying shower of shit. But if you have a vote then use it because if you don't then you have no reason to complain. I hate this communist government and their crony leader Stalinist Blair and his two Fat Contollers .... Stalinist Brown and Prescott. For all the faults that the previous goverment had, there;s no comparison to useless high taxing, lying, screw the tax paying public bunch of no good for nothing leaching parasites. Sorry but if the tax payer had any sense they would vote this scum of the earth out of power ....... I used that thread and was going to vote Conservative. It say I should be voting Conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Sorry but if the tax payer had any sense they would vote this scum of the earth out of power ....... How else do you pay for things if you start giving tax reductions, the money has to come from somewhere? What about the Conservatives giving less money to the NHS, then if you need for example a hip operation you could end up having to pay half! I don't know why anyone could think the Conservatives or any party for that matter would do any better because they wouldn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VELOCITY Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Monster raving loony party!!!! or none of the above!!! Thats who i will vote for. Nobody is good enough for my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rafsen Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Hmmmm I should vote the Green Party I agree in that tax has to increase but that isnt the problem; its the wastage of our tax money that p!sses me off. I.e. my brother works for the local hospital in the IT department. When the years almost out all the top doctors, consultants etc get together and say "hmmm we have £xxxx left on our IT budget for this year. If we dont spend it then next year it is going to get reduced by whatever we have left over so lets buy something." Last year my brother purchased a desk for a consultant that had a bulit in PC (cannot remember the price but it was shocking)!!!! WTF??? That desk could have bought x amount of new beds but they cannot juggle the budgets about; there are no controls. In fact they dont even bother to look at spend patterns and ask themselves why are alot of purchases going through towards the end of the fiscal year???? Oh and by the way i think everyone should vote; like others I am in a dilemma whereby i do not want to vote Labour for the mentioned reasons and many more. I also dont want another tory era; this leaves me with the Lib Dems in my area..... honest party with what seem to be good intentions on most of their policies however they aren't very driver friendly.... and some of their policies i totally diagree with. What would happen if i struck a big line across the sheet? do they get counted as defaced or just ignored as a no vote???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I generally judge a government by how much they have affected my life. Labour were in charge when the internet bubble burst, that left me out of a job for 7 months. Labour were in charge when my wife gave up teaching due to shit hours, pointless government guidelines removing all freedom of experience for the kids and more paperwork than anybody could cope with. I got married and they removed the married persons allowance. I own 3 cars (vectra, citroen, supra) and get hit hard on all of them on fuel. I pay more council tax now than ever before but get less for my money, I havent seen a policeman walk past my house for 6 years let alone walking round my local area. My dad has waited nearly 18 months for a knee op on the NHS. My son had to wait an extra 6 months to get in to a local nursery as they closed the best nursery in the area so they could build 200 homes on the university/nursery site. I could go on... Im not saying the Conservatives will fix all this but when they were in power they did far less damage to me than Labour. I live in a Conservative run area anyway so my vote isnt going to change too much. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 John you cant blame the gov for the internet bubble bursting. My experiences are different to yours, I've seen lots of police about. My area is Conservative too as its a fairly rural area, so all the famers and land owners like to see things kept the way they are. With regard to the damage it all depends what industry you're in I guess. Im sure if you speak to a lot of mining communities (for example) they'd give you a different perspective yadda yadda yadda. I can understand all the bitching about fuel. I am in total agreement. No one wants to pay what we do, but its something the TORYS introduced many moons ago. Yes this gov could have done something but their aim is to get people out of their cars and onto public transport. Personally, I agree, but in reality I cant see it happening. In an idea world it would be all sweetness and light if we rode around in perfectly clean, realiable, on-time transport running around the clock. But this cannot seriously be a vote decider.. there are so many more SERIOUS issues than how much you pay to fill up your sports car. Its gonna take a LONG time for that to happen. So the punish now (high tax on fuel) and 'reward' later is tough to swallow when you dont see much happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynb Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Oooerr - I should vote for UKIP apparently which came as a bit of a shock.. With postal voting and boundary shifting the system has been massively rigged in favour of this bunch of chancers and spivs - it would take a massive swing to unseat them. I think another 4 years continual twisting of the truth will make me vomit - actually it is not even twisting it is outright lies day after day and they know we know and they don't care. They are laughing at us all. Needless to say I won't be voting for this lot, as the lesser of two evils it is Tory for me. The other parties are all irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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