jacko Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Just wondered what people's views are on the release of Ronnie Biggs on "compassionate grounds"? Personally i dont really get the difference if he is "released" or not, he's in hospital anyway. Plus he managed to evade the British justice system for years, so what difference is a few weeks going to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 A well balanced arguement there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 A well balanced arguement there lol It wasent a horrible crime he did, Just a bit of high jinx, I think he should of got let out years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Indirectly, he's probably done quite a bit for British GDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 I dont know quite what it is, but there always seems to be a slight sense of admiration for people like Biggs. Maybe in a way people wish he had never returned to Britain after years of sticking his fingers up to the justice system, the public like a rebel dont they. It's like the robbers that stole £50m the other year, how many people didnt want them to get caught.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 He was on the run for 40 years almost and had to keep an eye over his shoulder for the duration, he could'nt lay his hat for more than 5 mins until brazil even then he had to worry about being kidnapped and brought back here! Thats no life really for anyone so in my eyes he's done his time now let him live out his days gracefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I've got no sympathy for him at all. He was happy to stick two fingers up to this country for 30 years - if he'd served out his sentence when first convicted he would've been released years ago. If people want to brand him a minor criminal then fine - but he's a minor criminal who's never expressed any regret whatsoever for his crime and only came back to this country when he got sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 It wasent a horrible crime he did, Just a bit of high jinx, I think he should of got let out years ago Someone did die on the robbery. And it wasnt one of the robbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I've got no sympathy for him at all. He was happy to stick two fingers up to this country for 30 years - if he'd served out his sentence when first convicted he would've been released years ago. If people want to brand him a minor criminal then fine - but he's a minor criminal who's never expressed any regret whatsoever for his crime and only came back to this country when he got sick. My sentiments exactly. How can a man, any man, expect sympathy from people after committing such a heinous crime. He obviously had no compassion for the person whos life was cut short during the robbery so i say he should have spent his final days where he belongs...in prison!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Don't know all the facts but i loved the film, so i'm all for the release on those ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Well, I reckon there's more to him than just a cheeky chappy on a cheeky caper. I guess it was quite a ruthless crime in its day. People can get doey-eyed about what he did, but I won't. By today's standards, the punishment does seem harsh compared to the crime. I don't know what you'd have to do these to get locked up for 30 years, apart from be the next Fred West or Dr Shipman. In the paper this morning, it seemed to imply that he escaped from jail 15 months before the end of a 30-year stretch. Now why the hell did he do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Total waste of time IMHO. He spent years running from Justice - so what if he 'couldn't lay his hat for more than 5 mins' or had to spend years keeping 'an eye over his shoulder'? He volunteered for that lifestyle - nobody forced him to go to S. America. If he'd styed in the UK and faced the music at the time, he'd have been able to enjoy his old age. As they say - if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. But Biggs didn't have the balls to stick around and take what was coming to him. As it is, he waited until he was getting old and infirm before coming back to the UK where we have a nice national health service to look after him. No doubt he thought that coming back at that age would mean he wouldn't do much time inside if any at all. And now my route to work is full of news teams making me late in the morning as I work right next door to the Norfolk & Norwich Hospital! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I believe in freedom. Better late than never. He who can be pardoned, should be. Even those who fart in their father's footsteps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 I believe in freedom. Better late than never. He who can be pardoned, should be. Even those who fart in their father's footsteps. What, freedom for criminals? An interesting concept..... Also why should remorseless people be pardoned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I hope he dies soon and saves law-abiding taxpayers some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I believe in freedom. Better late than never. He who can be pardoned, should be. Even those who fart in their father's footsteps. Are you off ya nut???? So if a guy shot and robbed your family should be pardoned? Or if someone rapped an underage girl If you do the crime you deserve to do the time Thats why we have a justice system!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronttuk Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 i think he should of been sent directly back to brazil he only came here for medical help when he couldnt afford it himself, id hate to think the money keeping him alive cost the life of somone else, ive done a bit of bird, i paid the price, he decided to run till it suited him throw him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 What was the Sex Pistol's song mentioning Ronnie? I quite like the guy, and I remember the robbery well. It is in no doubt that it captured the imagination of the public even at the time, and I remember being in awe of the sums involved. I later found an acquaintance had been deeply involved in the organisational side of the robbery (he's now died) and I got to hear all sorts of stuff. OK, the train driver died later, but it was dubious as whether his injuries directly caused his demise. I'd FAR FAR rather see him spend at least an academic amount of his short time left as a free man than see that black woman done for drug smuggling not be deported back to Barbados or whatever hole she came from, as she claims she's now become a lesbian (since doing an insignificant amount of bird) , and she would be beaten for it in her homeland. Yes, right..... I'd happily top her myself, devious, shallow, thick bitch So yes, I raise a glass to Ronnie. His son seems a nice guy, not at all as I might (prejudicially) expect. He's sort of an "Old school" robber, and the job was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon F Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Someone did die on the robbery. And it wasnt one of the robbers Are you sure? The train driver was attacked by the gang and never worked again but died about seven years after the robbery from lukemia. In the paper this morning, it seemed to imply that he escaped from jail 15 months before the end of a 30-year stretch. Now why the hell did he do that? Think you will find it was 15 months into a 30 year sentence Surely, one of the factors taken into account when granting parole is the likelyhood to re-offend. The guy is 80 years old and dying from pneumonia! No remorse as well. Do you reckon the lowlife who trashed Ellis's car last week are likely to show remorse? If not, will they get 30 years? (I know we would like to see it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Or if someone rapped an underage girl I agree, rapping is far worse than armed robbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 What was the Sex Pistol's song mentioning Ronnie? It was "No one is innocent" He was singing on it and did it for a bit of a laugh, The Video is on The great rock n roll swindle album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 And following from that (thanks Blackie) I find this snippet: http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/blogs/news-blog/ronnie-biggs-was-doing-time-till-he-done-a-bunk What a difference a (few) days make... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvteye Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 It was a great film and had a lasting effect on me (I learnt to spit ) http://www.cookandjones.co.uk/swindle_part1.htm Is it just me or does anyone else think JamieP is related to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I find it difficult to have any respect at all for a common criminal and thief. He should serve his full sentence, I don't really care that they say he's no risk to the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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