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just some questions about thr cylinder displacements .

 

am i rite in thinking that stroking the engine to increase displacement is to increase the stroke of the piston hence giving larger displace ment when the piston is in full induction position?

 

if so what pros/cons dose this give over re-boreing the cylinders to gain displacement?

 

i have seen many poeple that use the 3.4 stroker kit but i dont hewr many people re-boreing , so (hears where i get silly)

 

.is it possible to stroke and re-bore the 2jz. ?

.has anybody ever done it ?

.if so what is the max displacement the 2jz can have before you run out of metal?

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You can bore a 2JZ no issues, many go 20 over (0.020), 40 over and then most don't recomend boring. But you can go 50 over and 60 over.

 

Stroke's you can run stock stroke at 86mm, 90mm stroke (3.2L) or 94mm (3.4L)

 

The 3.4L motor is the most common bore/stroke is 94mm crank and 87mm piston (40 over)

 

Big HP guys 1200+ often will use stock or 20 over piston because you can run into cylinder cracking issues.

 

Best to stick to max displacement of 3.4L that is proven and works. You can try to go crazier, but then your doing a frankenstein build.

 

 

 

just some questions about thr cylinder displacements .

 

am i rite in thinking that stroking the engine to increase displacement is to increase the stroke of the piston hence giving larger displace ment when the piston is in full induction position?

 

if so what pros/cons dose this give over re-boreing the cylinders to gain displacement?

 

i have seen many poeple that use the 3.4 stroker kit but i dont hewr many people re-boreing , so (hears where i get silly)

 

.is it possible to stroke and re-bore the 2jz. ?

.has anybody ever done it ?

.if so what is the max displacement the 2jz can have before you run out of metal?

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am i rite in thinking that stroking the engine to increase displacement is to increase the stroke of the piston hence giving larger displace ment when the piston is in full induction position?
Yes, that's right.

 

if so what pros/cons dose this give over re-boreing the cylinders to gain displacement?

 

i have seen many poeple that use the 3.4 stroker kit but i dont hewr many people re-boreing , so (hears where i get silly)

 

.is it possible to stroke and re-bore the 2jz. ?

.has anybody ever done it ?

.if so what is the max displacement the 2jz can have before you run out of metal?

The problem is that the cylinders on the 2JZ are close together, so you can't increase the bore by a meaningful amount. Boring it out to 87mm is the most anybody does by choice and that only inceases the displacement by, IIRC, something like 40cc.

Generally, folks only rebore the 2JZ to make-good damaged cylinder bores, rather to increase displacement.

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A longer stroke will reduce the potential for high revs, and GENERALLY increases piston loadings. Personally I don't think the 2JZ engines work well at long strokes, in fact the shorter stroke 1JZ is a much "nicer" engine. Boring much more than 1mm oversize compromises cylinder block wall stability and may result in poorer ring sealing than a stock or modest over bore. Radical over boring will demand custom pistons, and should only be done on blocks that have been tested for casting integrity and core shift. If a scrap block or two worries you don't do it :)

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Chris is correct with the reduction of high rev's, but in the case of the 2JZ a proper built 3.4L can go up to 9500rpm's which you will likely never use in most cars. The Stroked 2JZ also will give you better average HP across the power band and spool up much quicker (usually 900rpm) from a 3.0L to a 3.4L

 

Chris is 100% correct, I would not suggest going over +1mm unless you have to, always best to try and stay with a smaller bore so you have stronger/thicker cylinder walls.

 

A longer stroke will reduce the potential for high revs, and GENERALLY increases piston loadings. Personally I don't think the 2JZ engines work well at long strokes, in fact the shorter stroke 1JZ is a much "nicer" engine. Boring much more than 1mm oversize compromises cylinder block wall stability and may result in poorer ring sealing than a stock or modest over bore. Radical over boring will demand custom pistons, and should only be done on blocks that have been tested for casting integrity and core shift. If a scrap block or two worries you don't do it :)
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