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Steve W

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How many of you Jap' Speccers have replaced dip or main beam

bulbs ? ? ?

 

Mine haven't actually blown, but, I have just been out to try to

match-up UK bulbs.

 

The UK ones - 9005 and 9006 - are VERY similar, but, both have

slightly different shape edge 'tags' to the jap (361 and 362 ?)

 

I managed to 'alter' the 1 tag on the high-beam UK and it fits

OK in the holder (will have to wait till later to check beam ?)

 

BUT, the UK dip beam bulb has a much bigger 'seal' circle and

I don't think I can get that one to fit ! ?

 

[also changed 1 side light - the peanut 5w capless - and 1 fog

bulb - just an ordinary H3 - put a Philips 5w 'blue' in = noticably

brighter even in daylight - and a 130w H3 = NEED I SAY.....!

...only changed 1 High-beam to see difference]

 

WHAT HAS ANYONE ELSE DONE/FOUND ? ? ?:conf:

 

[OR, where do you buy, and how much, the Jap bulbs ? ?]

 

Fat S

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Just went to try in dark.

 

side-light (peanut) fair bit 'whiter' than ordinary one:thumbs:

 

fog-light (H3 - 130W) MUCH brighter:thumbs: :sly: , but, need to double check

that not TOO high (tomorrow).

 

UK high-beam ('bodged'!) seems to match Jap one for aim + brightness

(even though 65W instead of 55W - not much different I suppose)

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tomorrow will see if UK high-beam can/will fit dip-beam

(should be reflector which 'aims' ?)

 

and put other H3(130W) and other peanut in.

 

Fat S.

 

[ "so far, so bodged ! ]

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I don't, for one ! ?

 

(though I'm not too worried. I'll try it - if 'worst' happens

I'll probably try to get some new UK units anyway)

 

I won't be using the fogs for normal night driving, only down

darker roads/dull weather etc.

BUT, I know what you're saying Phil, it's always a risk with

high-wattage bulbs....glass/alternator/fuses etc.

 

It IS a slight risk ! (I just LOVE brighter lights - and can't afford

the Discharge Units !)

 

ALTHOUGH, now I've seen a MEASURABLE improvement in these

'blue'-y peanut bulbs I may 'down-rate' to normal wattage but

the blue type !

 

I had SERIOUS doubts that any of the silly blue bulbs would work

(I've seen LOTS of the rainbow/coloured ones - even TRIED one -

it was duller than the ordinary one ! ! !)

but now, some seem to actually work...a bit.

 

Fat S.

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When I first got the car I thought the lights were rubbish. Then found that they were set at the lowest setting possible for MOT.

I got my friendly MOT tester to put them to the other end of the scale, right at the high limit. It amade a huge difference. But I would like some brighter lamps.

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I'll keep you updated on the 'Blue-Bulb' saga.... if I try them.

 

AND, I WILL tell the truth about if they're brighter, or NOT !

 

None of this "OH, YEAH THEY'RE FANTASTIC MATE - A MILLION

 

TIMES BRIGHTER".......they're either better, or, they're not ! !

 

[The 130W IS a lot brighter - BUT I would not expect anyone else

 

to risk the obvious possible side-effects. ]

 

[ I did have 130/90W H4's and 130W driving lights on my

RS Turbo - No problems, although the glass was miles from the

bulbs ! - but the light on high beam (520W FULL, PLUS 180W 'DIP' if 'flashed' !)

WAS a tad brighter ...luverly..

BUT when you 'flashed' at idle the thing almost stalled with

the load on the alternator ! !:p ]

 

Fat S.

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Every seen HID on a Supra?

Well I've fitted them and they are a hell of a lot better.

 

Of course they aren't cheap at £400 but boy are they bright.

 

http://www.trlperformance.com/personal/HID/HID.html

 

I had no trouble fitting UK Spec lights in my Jap spec holders so I think someone may have changed the backing plate to suit prior to me buying it.

 

Pete

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Just bought two new bulbs, just the bog standard 9005 (maybe6) these were the ones with the two grooves on the back, a firm push and they connect to the plug, then another firm twist and they go in the light socket snuggly.

 

Not exactly OEM but hey they work :)

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and is yours a Jap' Spec, Will ? ?

(AND, has it got 'plastic' or 'glass' headlights ?)

 

The 9005 and 9006 have both got bigger 'tags' that won't go in

my plastic/Jap' sockets....(as I said, the 9006 has gone in by

filing one tag down, but, the 9005 has a larger 'base' seal for some

reason).

 

[have you replaced the dip or the high beams ?]

 

Fat S.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Steve - I`m new on this site so please excuse any mistakes.

I have just bought some "blue" bulbs from a company called Power Bulbs and have found exactly the same as you describe ie. low beam bulb will not fit due to sealing ring being of too big a diameter and high beam having 2 location pegs in the connector instead of 1!!!

Have you come to any conclusions yet?

Ian - from sunny Newquay looking out over the sea.

J-Spec. N/A Aerotop with complete Veilside kit.

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HI...C4SUP...

 

Have you intro'd yourself on "General" Forum ? ?

IF NOT - just tell 'em your here.

 

As I said, the high-beam 'tags' are easy to alter - you only need to

'trim' a little off of 1 tag (I think, as you look at bulb from glass side,

ie. front, it's the low/right tag.)

Needs bottom taking off slightly till matches Jap tag and JUST

goes in holder - little as posible makes sure still tight fit.

 

STILL haven't sorted dip-beam.

I'm gonna buy 'cheap' high-beam and try trimming to fit low holder

and test beam aim/spread ? ?

 

BUT, that would be too easy - why would they use 2 bulbs if you

could use 1 ? ?

 

I'll let you know (HERE) if I do it/if it works.

 

FatS

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Originally posted by Steve W

and is yours a Jap' Spec, Will ? ?

(AND, has it got 'plastic' or 'glass' headlights ?)

 

The 9005 and 9006 have both got bigger 'tags' that won't go in

my plastic/Jap' sockets....(as I said, the 9006 has gone in by

filing one tag down, but, the 9005 has a larger 'base' seal for some

reason).

 

[have you replaced the dip or the high beams ?]

 

Fat S.

 

sorry mate missed this, mine is jap (plastic) and it was the main bulbs I was replacing, they are still going strong and passed the MOT with flying colours so my mild bodge job has obviously worked! the tags looked OK but I agree compared to the originals they do look bigger but fitted fine! :)

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Mr. LURVVV...

 

I take it by 'side-light' you mean the FIRST bulb to come on...

the funny little plastic holder-thingy ? ?

 

Those are just 'peanut', or, capless 5w bulbs (Same Jap + UK).

[VERY long holder pulls out next to Dip bulb - like a long cigarette

holder ?]

 

I have upgraded(?) to the Philips Blue-Vision bulbs and YES they

are a fair bit whiter (NO Blue colour when lit).

 

I changed 1 only at first and when ANYONE was asked they

IMMEDIATELY said one was now brighter than the other ! !

 

As I (ALSO) said, I want to now replace high and low bulbs with

the Blue Vision (type) bulbs AND will probably replace the 130w

Fog-light bulbs with SAME (the 130's are a tad hot-running really,

just as Phil said - PROBABLY wouldn't crack lens, but better safe

especially if there's not a lot in it !)

 

ps. NOT the multi-coloured bulbs. = TOTAL CR*P (by experience!)

 

Fat S.

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Steve,

Just fitted side and main beam bulbs and with a little bit of trimming they fitted OK.

The dip beam will be slightly different as, in the connector there is 1 locating tag and on the HB3 (main beam bulb) there are 2. On contacting PowerBulbs they say it is OK to file off the tags on the bulb as long as the bulbs are still tight in the holder, they should be !!

This means both main and dip bulbs are the same. I hav`nt tried this yet but will do in a few days. Bit worried that the Blue Vision dip bulb (that won`t fit) has a silver tip on it !! Any thoughts?

Ian

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YES, I think you're right...

 

Both the Jap Dip and the UK Dip bulbs have 'blackened' tips...

 

Both the High-Beams have NO TIP.

 

The tip MAY be to stop light going 'straight' forwards on DIP

(so as to not ruin the pattern)

 

IN WHICH CASE, my idea of using the High in the Low isn't gonna'

work - well not very well anyway - the pattern may have 'stray'

light 'above' the dip cut-off point ? ? ?

 

I think I'll ask the local Toy' dealer to price/time me on getting the

REAL Jap bulbs - just in case I FUDGE the good ones up by keep

'man-handling' them.! ?

 

Fat S.

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  • 4 weeks later...

"" SOUNDS GOOD m8...

 

Have you checked the 'dip' pattern - ie. up-against-a-wall to see

 

if the 'cut-off' is still about right ? ?

 

FatS. ""

 

Sorry C4... just replied as above to 'other' thread...

 

I STILL haven't done yet, so you're treadin' new

ground for me ! !:p

 

I do hope the pattern IS OK, 'cos it's much easier to use UK bulbs

 

than have to order(?) Jap' ones through Toyotas(?).

 

FatS.

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