Bobbeh Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 so bobbeh are you saying that labour don,t have any corrupt MP,s/councilers in there party ? Nope, all I am saying is TRUST is not something that you can associate with any one party as they all have aspects that one can raise eyebrows over. TBH the levels of corruption and misuse of power have dropped a hell of a lot, but the whiter than white approach Blair came into government with was doomed to fail from the outset. It was only last month our local Tory MP stepped down after profitting from tourism around the house of commons through a tourism company he was/is a director of, after denying it and refusing to apologise. Lepoards dont change their spots so soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Labour inherited a Rolls Royce economy and would have had to be pretty inept to screw it up. I'd hardly call it that.. and didnt you see what happened after 2000 and the IT bubble burst.. its been a recession in Germany, Japan and the US for years now. We've done well to stay out of it for the most part. Talking about levels of borrowing... can you put a figure on how much of the national debt has actually been paid back since 1997 which was extremely high and now isnt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I want a "Their all lieing bastards, better odds on winning the lottery than finding a honest politician so it hardly matters" option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'd hardly call it that.. and didnt you see what happened after 2000 and the IT bubble burst.. its been a recession in Germany, Japan and the US for years now. We've done well to stay out of it for the most part. Talking about levels of borrowing... can you put a figure on how much of the national debt has actually been paid back since 1997 which was extremely high and now isnt? Part of the problem with your request, Bobbeh, is that we can no longer trust the borrowing figures or compare them, like for like with those of pre-1997. One smoke screen used by the current govt. is the PFI, or Private Finance Initiative. Labour will tell you that under the PFI, there is extra money available for things like our schools and hospitals. This isn't exactly true. Money raised under the PFI is not free, although it DOESN'T appear in government borrowing figures. Problem is, though, that it works like this: Rather than the Govt. borrowing directly, it avoids having this 'black mark' against its' own figures by having the private sector borrow on its' behalf to pay for projects up front. Then, over the next 30 years or so, the govt. pays the company back. But in the end the money all comes from the tax payer. Then there's the rapidly growing balance of trade deficit........ Statistics, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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