Jellybean Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Anybody gone down this route was thinking about it, seems like a good option 104 octane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Without a decent source its no worth the hassle, the race stuff is pretty pricey. You will also need to increase your fuel system by approx 35% to get the same amount of power as you need to use more of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 yeah but look its the way forward!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 yeah but look its the way forward!! Nothing at all to do with the 76GTS Dbb then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 its the way forward!! I agree, which is why I was looking into it in April 07 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=107408 The sad truth is its not readily available at a decent price in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Nothing at all to do with the 76GTS Dbb then... its part and parcel, in order to make the power with the turbo you need ethanol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 its part and parcel, in order to make the power with the turbo you need ethanol!! You can read then As Wes said, not really worth it in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 Without a decent source its no worth the hassle, the race stuff is pretty pricey. You will also need to increase your fuel system by approx 35% to get the same amount of power as you need to use more of it We have a Decent source here at petrol prices available through out the country Just was wondering the process , one of the guys over here had his S15 transitioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 We have a Decent source here at petrol prices available through out the country Just was wondering the process , one of the guys over here had his S15 transitioned Really, where? To do it properly you need to ensure all your full components are OK with E85 and in my eyes you would require a full remap to take advantage of it. As already mentioned, to get the same power you need to use more of it, therefore your fuel system will likely require upgrading. You can run more ign advance/boost/power as it has a higher octane rating and aids cooling. It ticks a lot of boxes but its the availability that is the show stopper for most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I have an E85 "tap" right outside my front door! Please tell me more about the voodoo required to get a 15 year old internal combustion engine to willingly drink the stuff. Its a NA by the way, no laughing at the back!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Its a NA by the way, no laughing at the back!! Bit pointless unless you can get it at half the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Move to Ireland Wez, E85 can be found nationwide at selected maxol stations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Its a NA by the way, no laughing at the back!! Then don't bother, it's not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Ok point taken, I'll stick with the 99 octane E5 :D:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 Over here it available at Maxol garages nationwide, but I did come across during the winter you can run into issues trying to get the car started due to the temp Talking to my freind (The mechanic) he did highlight your engine internals will be kept squeeky clean running E85 compared to petrol (Carbon deposits etc), He did mention he knows one of the specialists over here who performs the conversion so asked him to have a chat and see what the process is Items Required (Come up again and again) 1.Lager injectors (You need more E85 compared to Petrol) 2.Standalone or piggy back ECU for a remap 3.Fuel lines upgraded 4.Higher Flow Fuel Pump Havent got a definitive List yet I would like if anybody knows the •Pros •Cons •Gains if any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 You will also need to make sure that in colder weather they dont drop the blend at the pump to something like E70, I know this happens in the US. In an ideal world you would use a FlexFuel sensor and run a fuel/ign correction map based on the fuel being injected, that way you could half fill with petrol or E85 or run 100% E85 and the fueling/ign would be corrected as needed. This is how the FlexFuel Saabs etc work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Here is the race stuff http://www.aaoil.co.uk/racing-R-E85-racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 You will also need to make sure that in colder weather they dont drop the blend at the pump to something like E70, I know this happens in the US. In an ideal world you would use a FlexFuel sensor and run a fuel/ign correction map based on the fuel being injected, that way you could half fill with petrol or E85 or run 100% E85 and the fueling/ign would be corrected as needed. This is how the FlexFuel Saabs etc work Now you bring me onto my next point, I would ideally want the car to be Flexi Fuel because you dont want the loation of Maxol garages to dictate the routes you can only take Just goin the get the E85 info out of the way them hit the specialist with the Flexi Fuel device and from looking over here are approx 500euro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Not sure which ECUs support FlexFuel at the moment, off the top of my head MegaSquirt, possibly motec and the new Gen2 AEM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) I run it on my car, but at a 50/50 mix or 75/25 mix. I have to flick a switch or 2 over to go between fuel maps. I get it from Morrisons in Crowborough . They price it at 5/6 pence less than the 95 ron unleaded. It works But you'll need the right fuel pumps, lines, injectors, fuel rail , tune/tuner , fuel pressure etc etc. So unless you can get it regularly and easily/cheaply don't bother, go and get your car tuned on bp 102 or race fuel. I tested this out at North weald the other week and managed a 132 ET on the 1/4 mile on my stock block so I'm quite happy with it for now. The result is more power, lower Egt's, is much cleaner and I believe, would pass an emissions test without catalytic converters installed. The other down side is a drop in fuel consumption Edited June 22, 2009 by Robbie (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) You can read then As Wes said, not really worth it in the UK. you see not as dumb as i appear the only cons i can see with ethanol is you would need a MAP for every mixture as sometimes there not all the same like in the states, they have so many different blends in 1 area. If it was all the same wouldnt be an issue! edit!!! i see wez has already covered this Edited June 23, 2009 by Kirk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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