martini Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I might be buying a Supra with a Top Secret front bumper recently fitted. Currently, the registration plate is taped to the inside of the front window, passenger's side. a) Just how illegal is this b) Where/how can I get a plate installed? c) Are the stick on registrations illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 free bump as I would like to know the answer as i'm looking at getting this front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n boost Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Well i had a TS kit on mine and what i did was stuck a small ( cutdown) number plate on the bumper itself using double sided tape. See the attached pic which gives u an idea. Never had a problem really myself with the police and had it like that for nearly 2 yrs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGirlie Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I have a TS front, and I have a standard size UK plate on the front, which I hate! I have been thinking about it for ages, whether to just mount an import size square plate in the same place, or get a really small plate put somewhere, I don't want to get pulled over all the time though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 http://idisk.me.com/martinirwin/Public/Pictures/Skitch/160620091546-20090616-163507.jpg I am getting skirts btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGirlie Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Just make two small 90 degree metal brackets and attach it under the front bit and attach the plate to that, or I am sure you an buy a simple number plate holder to mount one on? Or just screw it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Don't worry about the location of the plate, but worry about the viewing angle.\ I think the police will tell you that the plate has to be visible from about 30 feet (It may be more than that, I've tried a brief Google but my skills today are weak). If you drive past an ANPR camera van and it can't pick it up from a certain range they'll pull you in if they're dragging cars in further down the road on spot checks. IMHO the two places to mount there on your front bumper for 100% legal goodness would be teh top window you have but a bit further down and mounted completely vertical, or like some do-luck bumpers just below that in front of the intercooler do you have some holes to mount brackets to then mount a plate to? EDIT : Supragirlie's plate is in a legal position. Admittedly it'll mess with airflow to any FMIC though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't have to take the beasty off to do that would I? I have industrial velcro, but I guess some kind of metal bracket might be better... though I don't have access to stuff like that really. Don't worry about the location of the plate, but worry about the viewing angle... IMHO the two places to mount there on your front bumper for 100% legal goodness would be teh top window you have but a bit further down and mounted completely vertical... Quite right. I don't want to break any laws! I don't actually have the car yet, so don't know about bumpers. At the moment the reg is stuck to the inside of the windscreen. I have industrial velcro which would stick it to the bumper quite nicely I think. Might well go for window area1 (top) and try to stick it as vertically as possible. Edited June 16, 2009 by martini (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Oh and stick on license plates are not legal according to the DVLA http://www.vrm-group.co.uk/registration-marks/regmarks.htm For a few rules on plates. Industrial velcro works quite well if you can put it somewhere legal. I did have it on my do-luck front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Get a folding motorised one so you can have the best of both worlds. Not sure anyone on here has done that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I have a TS-3 front with drop down brackets fitted in the FMIC cavity - see garage pics;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) Industrial velcro works quite well if you can put it somewhere legal. I did have it on my do-luck front. Awesome. Thanks for the tip. I will have a think about it. I might stick it on somewhere convenient somehow, at the most normal angle to the road. I have a TS-3 front with drop down brackets fitted in the FMIC cavity - see garage pics;) Nice. I wouldn't know where to start on that... where is it possible to buy one? Looks cool. Not sure which replica bumper I have. Edited June 16, 2009 by martini (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Awesome. Thanks for the tip. I will have a think about it. I might stick it on somewhere convenient somehow, at the most normal angle to the road. Nice. I wouldn't know where to start on that... where is it possible to buy one? Looks cool. Not sure which replica bumper I have. Two medium sized L-brackets drilled to the underside of the bumper will do the job;) Very easy to fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Don't worry about the location of the plate, but worry about the viewing angle.\ I think the police will tell you that the plate has to be visible from about 30 feet (It may be more than that, I've tried a brief Google but my skills today are weak). If you drive past an ANPR camera van and it can't pick it up from a certain range they'll pull you in if they're dragging cars in further down the road on spot checks. IMHO the two places to mount there on your front bumper for 100% legal goodness would be teh top window you have but a bit further down and mounted completely vertical, or like some do-luck bumpers just below that in front of the intercooler do you have some holes to mount brackets to then mount a plate to? EDIT : Supragirlie's plate is in a legal position. Admittedly it'll mess with airflow to any FMIC though. The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001........ AS FOLLOWS..... "(3) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed - (a) vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, (b) in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (4)" "(4) The diagonal length of the relevant area is - (a) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres, (b) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres, © in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres." You are allowed 44mm characters see the following link to craigs plates..... http://www.craigsplates.com/import-number-plates.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf :d:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Two medium sized L-brackets drilled to the underside of the bumper will do the job;) Very easy to fit It's getting/making them that would bugger me... unless you know someone that would knock-up a pair? Damn useful thread btw guys - thanks for all the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraJames Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I ran with my plate in the front window for 9 months, 1 £30 fine was all I got, but got so fed up with police hassle, I drilled holes in each corner and cable tied it to the mesh (JUN Front), Can now take it off for shows etc. Only prob as pointed out with this position it does slightly block air flow to FMIC but its either that or police hassle. Never been a fan of the stick on plates and again as pointed out the plate needs to sir vertically flat and be readable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf Page 3...... Character Height 64mm Character Width 44mm Character Stroke 10mm Space between characters 10mm Note there is no space in the grouping!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) I ran with my plate in the front window for 9 months, 1 £30 fine ... Yeh, I would hate a £30 fine or to be pulled over... especially immediately after buying it! It had a stock bumper, so comes with a normal plate. I will either go have a look in Halfords for something, or just stick it to the very front of the car. I reckon I might be able to get it near vertical. EDIT: Just looked in your garage. My car will NEVER look as good as yours for shows and things, so velcroing it on isn't really a biggy! Edited June 16, 2009 by martini (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraJames Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Umm velcro, I thought about that option, but was worried about loosing the plate on the motorway or something. Thanks for the comments, but trust me its nothing special, I have hit a dead end with the car due to lack on funds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Umm velcro, I thought about that option, but was worried about loosing the plate on the motorway or something. Thanks for the comments, but trust me its nothing special, I have hit a dead end with the car due to lack on funds If I could have an ICE install half that good, it would be ace. Looks amazing. I could do with sorting out a sub one day, but first thing is first - I need side skirts! The velcro is industrial stuff. It's frigging strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGSi Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 This was mine: Got pulled over once for it and police thanked me for trying to get a plate on it as they new it was an import and that most imports dont have a front plate. I also carried a proper plate that screwed into the same holes as the small one in case if any wanted me to swap it. Never had to use it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgyRog Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Mine is fitted with a 90 degree bracket from B+Q about £1 each and some industrial strength double sided tape. I have only been stoped once, but I have a legal one on the back seat and told the copper I hadn't had chance to fit it. I am sure he knew I was bulls**ting and he has seen me since and not bother me. Edited June 17, 2009 by DodgyRog (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS2004 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Going to try and figure out this stuff from http://opsi.gov.uk/si/si2002/20022687.htm - I am having a bomex fitted and dont know exactly where to fit, where is legal, what I can and cannot do etc.. Should make for some nice nightime reading! From what ive gathered so far on these forums.... Driving without one in visible sight on the front = max £30 fine and producer - no points Driving with one visible in the windscreen = £30 fine + 3 points + producer Driving with one not mounted vertically = £30 fine + 3 points + producer Driving with one not meeting regulations (size, angle, spacing) = £30 fine + 3 points + producer ....And to be very polite and helpful if/when stopped (which I always am ) so.. when I pick my car up.. I figure ill drive with the number plate in the back seat until I get home, then figure out where to put it! pretty convinced ill get stopped though because I look young (blessing and a curse!) - but my original plate is damaged so need to get a new one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden1989 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 As mentioned stick on ones are illegal, but ours has had one on for 2 years and never been stopped, before that it had an incredibly small one, and again never got stopped, I think it depends on where you live, but personally, we dont like drilling holes in bumpers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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