Syed Shah Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 3 Options: 1. Sell it and buy a TT, probably a couple of thousand extra. 2. Get some more power out of it with a decat/intake/exhaust. But won't really make that much difference, so option 1 is proably a better bet. 3. Content yourself with it for now, save up about 10k, and go NA-T, this would make you one of the fastest Supras (and all cars for that matter) in the UK. It is about the same price to get to this power level on an NA as on a TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Originally posted by ThunDeR Why do you say pre-1996 Darren? I didn't think the VVTi system was implemented 'til '98 or '99 was it? It was introduced in late 96, some cars, like my NA, are facelift, but not VVTi, as it came a couple of months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Hmm probably a good idea to buy a '95 import then to be certain I don't end up with the VVTi crap I can live without the silver rear light surrounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Just look under the bonnet, it will say if it's a VVTi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Originally posted by Syed Shah Just look under the bonnet, it will say if it's a VVTi. Kinda hard when the cars I'm looking to buy will be in a jap auction hall and I'm in Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Oh, I see. Just make sure it is not a facelift then (easy with a pic of the car). Since 95% of them are VVTi. Most 96 cars are pre-facelift, and non VVTi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 But, on the other hand does getting a facelift car perhaps mean you get the big brakes as standard? Or is the common consensus that it was optional on any year of import? Given that I want to go BPU pretty much as soon as I get the car, should I ideally be looking for a low mileage '95 TT 6-Speed as the best example of the marque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 They were a option after the facelift, but a VERY rare one. A 95 TT 6-speed import sounds a very good choice indeed, but is quite rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I SHOULD be able to find one, given that I see lists of around 30 Supra's for sale at jap auction per week. Just finding a NICE one that's the hard part - I'm a fussy man and ideally I'd like a low mileage Veilside C1 kitted already BPU'ed '95 TT 6-Sp but I'll settle for a std car if it's the right one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 IMHO, start off with a stock car, it's better to mod something when you know exactly whats been done to it. I agree, the hardest part is finding one in mint condition, it look me a long time, but at least i'm happy with my desicion, take your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Originally posted by GavinL errr...15K more like I keep talking in US prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Supra_Al & Mr D . .check out Gatherings and Events and come down to the Bracknell/Runnymede meet on the 20th October. Paul E is arranging it !! There should be at least 5 other NAs there including myself . .just down the M4 for you guys so you;re more than welcome to pop down . . Syed . .chap . .why is this variable valve technology crap on Supes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 VVTi was stuck on to fit around emissions laws. It actually gave a small boost to the midrange torque, but that was about it. The downside is, most tuning products that are electronics-based won't like the VVTi system. It's an extra bit of complexity to go wrong as well Mine is a facelift non-VVTi, and it's a 1996 model. Late or early, I don't know... -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Ian . .so I take it that VVTi s are more complicated to supe up as well ?? I met a chap on the road the other day . . had an R Reg TT VVTi .. looked under the hood . .he had an after market cruise control put on by JIC . .dunno but it all looked well complicated to me !! Think I'll stick to my basic NA and wait for the 9 pts to come off my license before I go near a TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I'd like the facelift model but I wanna avoid the VVTi system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 As you probably know Toyota wanted to and have now introduced VVTI across their whole range of new cars. Lets just hope that if the MKV Supra ever comes to fruition that they have a re-think and steer away from VVTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 Originally posted by Chris Rimes As you probably know Toyota wanted to and have now introduced VVTI across their whole range of new cars. Lets just hope that if the MKV Supra ever comes to fruition that they have a re-think and steer away from VVTI. Doubt they'll ignore it as the next "Supra" will be NA...no turbo option. expect a re-worked 4+L V8 to put it up against the Fezza 360 in performance but not cost...this is all assuming that they don't develop a mad V10 due to their F1 interest. But that's way off track... Personally I'd love to see someone take the NA as far as it can go without resorting to forced induction...or NOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR D Posted October 13, 2002 Author Share Posted October 13, 2002 V8 in a supe , now that would be nice..........:flame Dev Is the Bracknell meet still on for sunday ??? if so where are u meeting ?? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 Paul .or mR D rather . .it is still on . .I spoke to Supra_Al about it and have arranged to meet both of you . .will be in touch nearer to the time .. in the meantime feel free to call me on 07956 180474 for the whole lowdown ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Ahh, somebody said the NOS word. I was going to put NOS on mine, via Torque IC, to achieve 300HP, but then thought thats a £1000 for little bursts of 300HP, when for a bit extra I could buy a TT and get a constant 326. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Originally posted by Chris Rimes As you probably know Toyota wanted to and have now introduced VVTI across their whole range of new cars. Lets just hope that if the MKV Supra ever comes to fruition that they have a re-think and steer away from VVTI. There's nothing wrong with VVTi, but as someone said above most of the tuning kit already available for the Supra will not talk to the VVTi electronics. As a technology, VVTi is well and truly here to stay. There is a tremendous amount of research effort going into it, and related technologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Rob ..I was gonna do the NOS things as well . . even got a private plate related to it coz I was so serious . .but after my research . .I too decided it wasn;t worth it . .save the bux for a twin turb ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Mr D / Supra Al, come on, which of you is it I keep passing on Cricklade Road? About 5 times in the past few months, black Supe, he always waves/flashes. Maybe it was both of you! Yet another NA in the area, we should form a club or something! Anyway, what's this obsession with power? In case everyone hasn't noticed, we don't live in America! We have corners over here, power isn't everything. Personally if I were you I'd spend your money on the handling side of performance. My lowly NA managed to beat half the TTs on the handling course at 10 of the Best! (and for that matter was less than a sec off JB's stock TT on the 0-500m) cue excuses... The NA is cheaper, looks just as good, brakes better (assuming UK brakes), corners better, has more predictable drifting, gets better petrol consumption (shouldn't really be a consideration), and it's LOUDER! :flame Dev Not a bad exchange for a slight loss of power that means you can only beat 98% of cars on the road instead of 99%. just my 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 L2L ..thanks for your words of wisdom . . I am feeling 100 times better than I did yesterday about owning an NA !! Mine has been dropped with a hard suspension . .even I cant believe the handling onit .. but havent taken it onto a track yet ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 pure quality Mr'lust2luv'.. I also noticed that the TT and N/A go the 'same speed' in traffic:D (supra pilot puts coat on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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