AlexJames Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AMD-Phenom-9950-10-4Ghz-4GB-500GB-9500GT-1GB-SHIN_W0QQitemZ120431936443QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_DesktopPCs?hash=item1c0a4d83bb&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=301:1293:2 For the spec of the machine id say its HUGELY underpriced... am i talking rubbish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 holy moley, bargain of the century! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Not sure it is hugely underpriced. Asrock mainboard is quite cheap, 9500GT is a card from last century, 500Watt power supply from unknown producent, 4GB of old DDR2 memory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Unless ASrock has significantly improved over the last year they are a terrible mobo. They performed terribly in benchmarks against similar specc'd boards. This was a year or two ago but I wouldn't use one that was free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 10.4 Ghz LMAO!! 4 Cores at 2.6Ghz does not make a 10.4Ghz CPU!!! FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 10.4 Ghz LMAO!! 4 Cores at 2.6Ghz does not make a 10.4Ghz CPU!!! FFS Got to hand it to them, they surely are creative. It's not to bad for new kit at that price but is hardly a top end PC. Spend a little more and you could get a far more up to date and far quicker platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 yeah see what your saying... its not actually me whos buying, its some friends of mine who really dont have much in the way of moolah at the moment so they are looking for something that can run the latests games... and thats about it really... Would this work for that? or is it worth staying away from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolai Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Can someone please advise me a better one? Around the same budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 10.4 Ghz LMAO!! 4 Cores at 2.6Ghz does not make a 10.4Ghz CPU!!! FFS I agree. Trying to explain multi-core architecture and dual threading to some people is painful sometimes. Then you move onto bus speeds, latency and things like disk seek / RPM and density. Then again a few years ago everyone thought clock speed was king until they hit the thermal envelopes. People still ask me why we use 73Gb HDDs at work.... They spin at 15krpm and we only use 50% of the disk. Mmmm fast Yes a 73Gb HDD costs £2000. Yes I know you can get a 1Tb HDD at PC World for £60 ..... arrrrgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 yeah see what your saying... its not actually me whos buying, its some friends of mine who really dont have much in the way of moolah at the moment so they are looking for something that can run the latests games... and thats about it really... Would this work for that? or is it worth staying away from? Latest games? If he wants a mediocre graphics setting this'll do, or does he want to run something like Crysis at 1920x1200 or greater? If he does he wants to be spending that money on something like a Nvidia 120 or a pair of ATI 4870s and a nice Core i7 and setup. Chip and GPU will set him back £350 alone though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 SHE;) wants to play the latest Sims3 game, she has the bottom end Radion 5 at the mo,and it just cant handle it... So i guess the one above could handle it, but long term, its not the best PC in the world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsta_01 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 It also says it doesnt come with an operating system. As far as i know they can be quite expensive. You'd have to add about £166 for Windows Vista Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 for my younger sis she is running sims 3 on a Radeon 3800 series and dual core processor. The above will be fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 It also says it doesnt come with an operating system. As far as i know they can be quite expensive. You'd have to add about £166 for Windows Vista Home. Yeah her hubby has an OS for her... so should be ok for my younger sis she is running sims 3 on a Radeon 3800 series and dual core processor. The above will be fine! Thanks! I I read somewhere before that vista home can only use a maximum of 4gb RAM, so even if u had 10 it could only utilise 4, is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Yeah her hubby has an OS for her... so should be ok Thanks! I I read somewhere before that vista home can only use a maximum of 4gb RAM, so even if u had 10 it could only utilise 4, is that true? Just need a 64-bit OS in general to address above 3.3Gb of ram. If it's the 32-bit version I *think* it's got that ceiling. The OS will not see above 3.3-4Gb. The sims though? Bring back Little Computer People! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Just need a 64-bit OS in general to address above 3.3Gb of ram. If it's the 32-bit version I *think* it's got that ceiling. The OS will not see above 3.3-4Gb. The sims though? Bring back Little Computer People! Unless its enterprise Edition of the operating systems (well servers OS's anyway) they can see up to 32Gb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 If he does he wants to be spending that money on something like a Nvidia 120 or a pair of ATI 4870s and a nice Core i7 and setup. Chip and GPU will set him back £350 alone though I've been looking at buying a high end PC for Sims like Il2 / Storm of War and this is exactly the spec everyone has recommended to me too. 2x ATI 4870x2 - Core i7 - 1000w power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 For what you've mentioned - Sims 3...I can't see it working too well without an additional Graphics card, as the on board system is weak. An ATI 4850 is a good sub £100 card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 For what you've mentioned - Sims 3...I can't see it working too well without an additional Graphics card, as the on board system is weak. An ATI 4850 is a good sub £100 card. EA, always heavy on the graphics (I think due to naff optimisation) I'd agree on the 4850 being suitable, 4870 may be a tad overkill for Sims 3 Don't worry about which brand you buy of 4850 card, they're all from ATI, it's just other manufacturers then change the cooling layout or memory speeds or capacity. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164593 for example. There are 4850 cards from about £90 up to £140. I can't say I've had anything but good experiences from buying from ebuyer, but check dabs and a few others. Would say for the Sims maybe a Core i7 is overkill (unless she's moving onto Crysis / Fallout 3 etc ). Go for a reasonable Core 2 Duo and that would suffice. Be glad you're not buying graphics cards for the Mac! I have to buy a 4870 card and then hack the damn BIOS on it, otherwise the Mac 'version' of the card is £100+ more expensive than the PC 'version' even though they're identical hardware wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The advertised AMD Quad Core will be more than enough if she's used to a system that has a Radeon 5 in it... As an aside Core i7 is dieing anyway, I think it's too expensive for the market and Intel are reacting to that. The i5 (cheaper mainstream CPU) will be with us soon and then its the Core{TBA} 6core Nehalem's to replace the i7's on the 1366pin socket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The advertised AMD Quad Core will be more than enough if she's used to a system that has a Radeon 5 in it... As an aside Core i7 is dieing anyway, I think it's too expensive for the market and Intel are reacting to that. The i5 (cheaper mainstream CPU) will be with us soon and then its the Core{TBA} 6core Nehalem's to replace the i7's on the 1366pin socket. Probably right I do go overkill on HW sometimes i7 was a lot cheaper to get into the desktop than the Nehalem EX chips though. Staggering over the current C2D stuff. Maybe i5 will be picked up by more people Got a nice 2 x quad 2.26 Nehalem at home, christ it's staggering for rendering and encoding! DDR3 isn't cheap in sets of 3 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I build better for cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steviekid Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 then its the Core{TBA} 6core Nehalem's to replace the i7's on the 1366pin socket. Do you know if these new chips will definately be using the 1366 socket? I've been looking at the i7 920 as it seems to get rave reviews and is a sensible price but I don't want to end up with a motherboard that won't take any new chips in a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 1366 says here... http://www.trustedreviews.com/cpu-memory/news/2009/06/10/Intel-Readying-6-Core-Nehalem-for-Release-This-Year/p1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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