TopgunTT Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I loathe the BNP with a passion but they have played a very good campaign - I've heard quite a number of people who have referred to their election literature and said 'look, they're not racist any more, they're just looking after "us"'. And to be fair, I didn't receive any other literature through the door except theirs, very clever. They are somehow managing to make their beliefs sound reasonable and their representatives look mainstream, which is a huge shift from the days where they were so closely linked with skinheads and violence. If they continue to do this, and voters perceive that there's no longer any guilt or embarrassment linked to voting for them, then they'll continue to grow as a party. A very good post in my opinion. My only hope is that hopefully the literature isn't the only thing that is changing. As they become more main steam I hope that their policies will too. We (certainly I) forget that it wasn't that long ago when Labour were the upstarts rising on the support of the 'down trodden' working class against the Liberals and the Conservatives. Their policies back then were 'left' to say the least and they nicely mellowed (I think too much!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Just as a word of warning before this thread degenerates.... Discussion of the BNP gaining 2 seats in the Euro elections is fine. Pro-racist discussion of their racist policies and people's own racist viewpoints will not be tolerated and will result in a ban. Clear enough? Thanks. So am I free to bang on about anti-racism to my hearts content then? A very good post in my opinion. My only hope is that hopefully the literature isn't the only thing that is changing. As they become more main steam I hope that their policies will too. Did you watch that Youtube clip I posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopgunTT Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 One of the reasons the economy is in a mess is due to the wide open gates into the uk letting any tom dick and harry in, not working and raping our benefits and clogging up our NHS system And just when our economy needs a boost to get us rolling again it carnt pump the money in because we are giving it all them, Also they are taking all our work from us because they work for chocolate buttons, I am finding it hard to get work because of all the immigrants working for next to nothing leaving me without a job BNP Aim to get Britain back to how it was british jobs for britsh people and get rid of all the immigrants, We should take a leaf out of australias book they only let trained skilled people in and wont ever grant you asylum if you dont intend to work. Looks at australia they are not in the mess we are in now!!! A very good post in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 A very good post in my opinion. My only hope is that hopefully the literature isn't the only thing that is changing. As they become more main steam I hope that their policies will too. We (certainly I) forget that it wasn't that long ago when Labour were the upstarts rising on the support of the 'down trodden' working class against the Liberals and the Conservatives. Their policies back then were 'left' to say the least and they nicely mellowed (I think too much!) I'm sorry but that's utter rubbish. As Labours policies have 'mellowed' as you put it, they've almost become the same bunch of idiots the Torries always were. Which is why we have almost ten pages of this thread of people either saying they don't want to vote, or they're voting 'extreme' (BNP). At least when Labour supported the working classes, and the Torries looked after their perverted public school boy friends you knew where you were. These days they're all the same. It's safe to say this is a time of political unrest. Hoping for 'more mellow' policies from an extreme group of right-wing fascists is just hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Really sorry for not voting guys. It's all my fault that the BNP were able to bring the country a step further toward Anarchy and the Fourth Reich. In hindsight I should have demonstrated my disdain for the current government by voting Conservative, as I should have realised that thousands of fed up Labour voters would vote BNP for a bit of a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 A very good post in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Really sorry for not voting guys. It's all my fault that the BNP were able to bring the country a step further toward Anarchy and the Fourth Reich. In hindsight I should have demonstrated my disdain for the current government by voting Conservative, as I should have realised that thousands of fed up Labour voters would vote BNP for a bit of a laugh. The point being the fed up Labour voters didn't turn out - which is how the BNP got in. This might come as a bit of a shock, but I'm probably as anti-right wing as they come. If it comes down to this next time I'll be stood in the middle of Portsmouth handing out Torrie flyers and pleading everyone to vote anything but BNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopgunTT Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The point being the fed up Labour voters didn't turn out - which is how the BNP got in. This might come as a bit of a shock, but I'm probably as anti-right wing as they come. If it comes down to this next time I'll be stood in the middle of Portsmouth handing out Torrie flyers and pleading everyone to vote anything but BNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 That's quite funny. Really sorry for not voting guys. It's all my fault that the BNP were able to bring the country a step further toward Anarchy and the Fourth Reich. In hindsight I should have demonstrated my disdain for the current government by voting Conservative, as I should have realised that thousands of fed up Labour voters would vote BNP for a bit of a laugh. That was my strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 So am I free to bang on about anti-racism to my hearts content then? Probably.The reason they did so well, the one sidedness of it all;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Just as a word of warning before this thread degenerates.... Discussion of the BNP gaining 2 seats in the Euro elections is fine. Pro-racist discussion of their racist policies and people's own racist viewpoints will not be tolerated and will result in a ban. Clear enough? Thanks. LOL, and remind me what job you do? Hope you're more neutral when doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Really sorry for not voting guys. It's all my fault that the BNP were able to bring the country a step further toward Anarchy...... WOOAH there boy. The BNP won't be taking the country towards Anarchy whatsoever. In fact, Anarchy is probably the antithesis of the BNP being that it is almost exclusively a very far to the left political position. Maybe you meant that they'd take us toward Anomie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Probably.The reason they did so well, the one sidedness of it all;) Let us hope that they never get enough power to make sure they only opinion allowed is that which they would have us believe. See the Youtube clip again and then wonder about freedom of speech/expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Let us hope that they never get enough power to make sure they only opinion allowed is that which they would have us believe. See the Youtube clip again and then wonder about freedom of speech/expression. Yeah, you hoped they'd never get to this stage but they have. About time the main parties woke up and looked at things such as at immigration policies and addressed the issues instead of trying to convince us all that BNP is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The point being the fed up Labour voters didn't turn out - which is how the BNP got in. Therein lies the problem with politics in the UK. Choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Yeah, you hoped they'd never get to this stage but they have. About time the main parties woke up and looked at things such as at immigration policies and addressed the issues instead of trying to convince us all that BNP is evil. Immigration is the scapegoat chosen for those that can't bothered to think for themselves. You'd be far better looking at the failings of capitalism (among others) than immigration. I actually hope the BNP do get into power just so that I can find you and laugh at you complaining about living in a fascist state. You are really, really short-sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Therein lies the problem with politics in the UK. Choice. Exactly, same old Conservative, Labour, or bunch of tree hugging lefties or..........BNP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 You'd be far better looking at the failings of capitalism (among others) than immigration. In plain terms; White middle class bankers go us in this shit, not immigrants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 In plain terms; White middle class bankers go us in this $#@!, not immigrants! In simple terms, yes. As the BNP elite are rich scum they're not about to go upsetting the money men. So, blame it on someone else. Someone that the average, thick bloke in the street doesn't understand and voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Immigration is the scapegoat chosen for those that can't bothered to think for themselves. You'd be far better looking at the failings of capitalism (among others) than immigration. I actually hope the BNP do get into power just so that I can find you and laugh at you complaining about living in a fascist state. You are really, really short-sighted. As said before I didn't vote BNP, I do support a democracy though and the communist type brainwashing against them was disgusting so I'm happy they got a couple of seats purely for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 In simple terms, yes. As the BNP elite are rich scum they're not about to go upsetting the money men. So, blame it on someone else. Someone that the average, thick bloke in the street doesn't understand and voila! Turn the masses against each other... it might just work reading some the tosh on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 White middle class bankers go us in this $#@!, not immigrants! Racist !! So none of those bankers were coloured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 WOOAH there boy. The BNP won't be taking the country towards Anarchy whatsoever. In fact, Anarchy is probably the antithesis of the BNP being that it is almost exclusively a very far to the left political position. Maybe you meant that they'd take us toward Anomie. No, I know what Anarchy and Anomie mean, and ironically I meant Anarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 As said before I didn't vote BNP, I do support a democracy though and the communist type brainwashing against them was disgusting so I'm happy they got a couple of seats purely for that reason. Do you get that Fascist (right-wing) parties don't believe in democracy? Do you understand that 'if they got in' you wouldn't be allowed to vote? there would be no democracy? So a vote for the BNP (not that you did, mind) is a vote against democracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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