dr_jekyll Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 go supra , the porsce may be a good car but 99/100 porce drivers have lots of money but not mutch talent , u can do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 And to make certain, give us his address and we'll make sure he is a spark plug down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Unless the 911 has had some serious mods like uprated turbo etc i very much doubt its making 550 anyway, a 2003 turbo was around 420 iirc, go for it:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 go for it my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 DMS do a basic remap & exhuast package that will take a 2003 to around 525bhp, if it's a Turbo S make that 550bhp. I'd say it'll be very close neither of you will be embarrsed by the other. The 911's response will be what gets you, you'll be playing catchup if it's from a standstill, would expect the Supe to start pulling back once you're into silly speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Unless the 911 has had some serious mods like uprated turbo etc i very much doubt its making 550 anyway, a 2003 turbo was around 420 iirc, go for it:) Yep ... 420 in standard trim ... "chipping" it like the germans say (adding a preprogrammed piggy back ecu) would give a max of 500 bhp. Off the line, the 4WD is very quick. But on a rolling start, a single Supra will be quicker. On track, a Supra will be quicker, certainly if you have Bignum behind the steering wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_d Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 whats his top speed? I think your take him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) Yep ... 420 in standard trim ... "chipping" it like the germans say (adding a preprogrammed piggy back ecu) would give a max of 500 bhp. Off the line, the 4WD is very quick. But on a rolling start, a single Supra will be quicker. On track, a Supra will be quicker, certainly if you have Bignum behind the steering wheel I disagree, on a rolling start his response will win (unless you use Jamie's trick of left foot braking to creating boost while you're rolling ) A remapped one will pull close to 200mph (it won't hit it unless the remap has upped the rev limit) - a completely stock car tops out at 189 Edited May 20, 2009 by jevansio (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Knockhill is a fairly slow track. It will take some good driving from you to keep up with a porker turbo, let alone a modified porker turbo. Will definitely be an interesting race though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 The Porsche is an easy car to drive fast near the limit, a single Supra is harder, if it's on a track I would expect you'd need to be a lot better driver than him to pull it off. If you are equal skilled, my money is on the 911 (assuming both cars are making the claimed power) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Unless the 911 has had some serious mods like uprated turbo etc i very much doubt its making 550 anyway, a 2003 turbo was around 420 iirc, go for it:) As the man says, these cars will require more then just basic mapping from tinternet to produce 550+. With your spec, you should nail him providing you are a good shifter. Double clutch your way to victory. 0-60 they are around 4.2 secs (1590 kg weight) i think but after 80 MPH odd id have thought you should pull away with your setup. Nail the Porker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Ask him if its an X50, they have some better bits on them from stock and will make that power iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thought the X50 had 450-60 BHP? Still they are almost 3.5 seconds i think to 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 He'll not be reaching top speed at Knockhill I wouldn't think so that's not going to matter hugely. Sounds like it would be quite even to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thought the X50 had 450-60 BHP? Still they are almost 3.5 seconds i think to 60. They have bigger and better turbos/intercoolers and a GT2 gearbox iirc, they take more boost;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 They have bigger and better turbos/intercoolers and a GT2 gearbox iirc, they take more boost;) Yeah i know, i thought you meant stock power? Wernt they 450? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Yeah i know, i thought you meant stock power? Wernt they 450? Yeah i think so, he mentioned it has been remapped and im sure the x50 will make that sort of power with just a remap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 This all makes you want to watch, eh? Go for it and thrash him - it'll be an ace story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 How many here have actually driven a 911? Although he's probably slightly down on power at full boost (off boost and while spooling, the 911 has a slight edge), I predict the 911 would win easily round Knockhill with equally skilled drivers - the handling is definitely superior to the Supra - especially in the 4WD version. That said, driver ability can make up for a lot there, so for this race, I think the better driver will win..... Good luck! Will be rooting for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 How many here have actually driven a 911? Although he's probably slightly down on power at full boost (off boost and while spooling, the 911 has a slight edge), I predict the 911 would win easily round Knockhill with equally skilled drivers - the handling is definitely superior to the Supra - especially in the 4WD version. That said, driver ability can make up for a lot there, so for this race, I think the better driver will win..... Good luck! Will be rooting for you! Ive driven a gt3 racecar:cool: which weighed 1250kilo and although it did handle marginally better than my car it lost out on the power massively, it would be a close call round any small circuit tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Ive driven a gt3 racecar:cool: which weighed 1250kilo and although it did handle marginally better than my car it lost out on the power massively, it would be a close call round any small circuit tbh. Isn't the GT3 "only" the N/A engine, tho' (360hp)?? The turbo pushes that up to 420ish, I believe (not sure I'd believe any unproven claims of 500+)? Could that make up a bit of the power difference? 'nother question BN - as someone who has probably pushed both these cars closer to the edge than anyone - what is your opinion on how easy they are to drive on a track - does the 4WD on the 911 help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Isn't the GT3 "only" the N/A engine, tho' (360hp)?? The turbo pushes that up to 420ish, I believe (not sure I'd believe any unproven claims of 500+)? Could that make up a bit of the power difference? 'nother question BN - as someone who has probably pushed both these cars closer to the edge than anyone - what is your opinion on how easy they are to drive on a track - does the 4WD on the 911 help? The gt3 really kept you on your toes under power, it was more on the braking and turning in where it scored high, i havn`t driven a turbo 4x4 so can`t comment, i raced an 07 plate at the ring though which i caught up and kept with quite easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I disagree, on a rolling start his response will win (unless you use Jamie's trick of left foot braking to creating boost while you're rolling ) Theres nothing wrong with brake boosting! 90% of people you come across on those HUGE EMPTY and STRAIGHT stretches of road dont even relise what your up to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Wouldn't happen to be this one would it Got to detail it and a bloody amazing car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Is that not a GT2, carbon ceramic brakes, if that's been chipped you'll be look at well over 550bhp but he'll have to be pretty handy behind the wheel to keep it on the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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