Green Peace Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4432279.stm Jeremy Clarkson Voice: Whatever next...its ok for a team of people to go round bastardising each others front rooms...but make a programme about something thats fun and a group of purple Kagool wearing stuck up twats wipe their muddy feet all over our egos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Steve Hounsham - I want to cut your heart out with a rusty spoon. "It is irresponsible, out-dated television designed to give comfort to boy racers, 'petrolheads' and those from the 'get out of my way' school of driving " I'm sorry Mr Hounsham? The problem with being a 'petrolhead' is?......... replaced with a show that promotes "sensible driving in sensible vehicles". Oh dear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar dj Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Dont These Ar**holes Have Anything Better To Do Than Complain About Evry Thing.problem Is These Days "pressure Groups" Get Their Own Way On Too Many Things I Say We Start Our Own" Kill All Anti Petrol Head Pressure Group!!!!!!!! " Free Membership To First Blood!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Just read this. What a bunch of w@*&%rs. Next thing will be banning CSI and the Bill because they promote crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 This country is really going to the dogs isnt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I watch it, enjoy it overall and wouldn't want to see it banned especially on the grounds advanced here. However, Clarkson is a cock. Although I admire his facility with the english language, and he makes me laugh, some of the messages he gives out are pretty irresponsible. Week after week, he gives out messages that the environment isn't important, cars aren't causing any real damage, anyone with environmental concerns is some sort of outdated crystal-toting hippie twat and so on. All of which are cobblers. I've even heard him say global warming isn't real, which is a bit of self-deception usually only associated with American oil companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Its more of an entertainment show than a serious car show.. as all the 'action' involves sports cars, driving stupidly on a runway and they only focus on performance. But there are other shows that cater for the more sensible motoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I watch it, enjoy it overall and wouldn't want to see it banned especially on the grounds advanced here. However, Clarkson is a cock. Although I admire his facility with the english language, and he makes me laugh, some of the messages he gives out are pretty irresponsible. Week after week, he gives out messages that the environment isn't important, cars aren't causing any real damage, anyone with environmental concerns is some sort of outdated crystal-toting hippie twat and so on. All of which are cobblers. I've even heard him say global warming isn't real, which is a bit of self-deception usually only associated with American oil companies. But surely very few people take Clarkson seriously? He spouts a lot of controversial crap just for the sake of being controversial. It all about gaining viewing figures, not quality (or fair/unbiased) reviews of the cars on the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 But surely very few people take Clarkson seriously? He spouts a lot of controversial crap just for the sake of being controversial. It all about gaining viewing figures, not quality (or fair/unbiased) reviews of the cars on the show. Well, I think it's over the top to say that he had contributed significantly to the decline of Rover, as someone mentioned in the article argues. But the motor industry does recognise that journalists can influence their fortunes of some of their models and some companies go out of their way to court their favour. I'm more concerned with him rubbishing environmental issues and making them out to be trivial (says he, whilst driving a hugely polluting decatted gas-guzzling supra). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 this is gettin ridiculous! Top Gear is quality TV now, especially considering the amount of reality TV about! why aren't people calling for Eastenders to be banned etc. Lifted from their website: Press release issued Monday 11 April 2005 TRANSPORT 2000 campaigners called today for Top Gear to be taken off the BBC schedules and replaced with a new programme promoting “sensible driving in sensible vehicles”. It argues that, as a programme put out by a public service broadcaster, Top Gear should be responsible, seek to educate and be in the public interest, but that it falls far short of these ideals and is in danger of promoting irresponsible driver behaviour and an obsession with big cars, while ignoring the interests of most women drivers. Transport 2000’s suggestion is for a new programme, perhaps called Third Gear, devoted to encouraging responsible motoring based on less environmentally damaging cars, considerate and safety-conscious driving, and exploration of alternatives to the car. The call comes as the BBC launches a consultation exercise inviting the views of the public on its future and its programmes. While recognising that Top Gear is seen by many of its viewers as entertaining, campaigners argue that it has a number of key faults: ... It glamorises speed and fails to make the connection with danger on the roads. ... It encourages an obsession with unnecessarily powerful and therefore heavily polluting cars. ... Through use of Jeremy Clarkson as presenter, with his distinctive image, it is in danger of encouraging a ‘yobbish’ attitude on the road. ... It does not focus enough, if at all, on responsible driving, ‘greener’ cars, road safety or the need to cut car journeys and use alternatives where possible. ... Through its recurring ‘macho’ themes of speed and power, it fails to include the interests of most women in its programmes. Spokesperson for Transport 2000 Steve Hounsham said: “Everyone is talking about how to reduce car use, cut climate change emissions and make the roads safer but, to quote in perhaps its own language, Top Gear effectively sticks up its fingers to this. “There is a strong danger that it encourages irresponsible motorist behaviour and it therefore has no place in public service broadcasting. We want to see Top Gear taken off the screens. It is irresponsible, out-dated television designed to give comfort to boy racers, ‘petrolheads’ and those from the ‘get out of my way’ school of driving. We would like to see it replaced with a new programme – perhaps called Third Gear – that promotes sensible driving in sensible vehicles. “This is not about censorship or having a poor sense of humour, it’s about what is in the public interest. You can provide entertainment without it being mindless and irresponsible. If we must have Jeremy Clarkson on the television, let’s give him something useful to do, such as trying out public transport or road-testing new bicycles. Perhaps he would like to drive a bus; he’d find it just as much fun as a Ferrari.” Notes Some things Top Gear is famous for: ... Following complaints made to the BBC, the programme team was sent back to Oxford twice to refilm a piece about the closure of the High Street to through traffic because it failed to present a balanced view of the scheme. ... To test the claims made for a 4x4, the programme really did try to take the vehicle to the top of a mountain in Scotland, through a sensitive peat bog causing substantial ecological damage. ... In an infamous episode, Jeremy Clarkson tore up on camera information from Transport 2000’s website presenting the dangers of speed. ... In a race against colleagues using public transport and plane, Clarkson drove a Ferrari more or less non-stop from London to Switzerland, regardless of fatigue, and was stopped by police for speeding on the way. ... Jeremy Clarkson deliberately drove a car into a tree in a car park in Somerset to test the strength of the car in a crash. The programme ended up apologising and paying compensation to the local parish council for the damage caused. For further information, media representatives should contact Steve Hounsham on 020 7613 0743 extn 106 or 07984 773468 or Stephen Joseph on 020 7613 0743 extn 105 or 07939 584790. So who wants to phone Steve first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm more concerned with him rubbishing environmental issues and making them out to be trivial (says he, whilst driving a hugely polluting decatted gas-guzzling supra). Jeremy Clarkson...is viewed these days as a comical figure in the world of TV and motoring...hes arrogant, extreme right wing, ugly, has a wife with more plumbs in her mouth than Annibel Chong, knows nothing about what goes on under the bonnet, lives in a big house, drives fat gas guzzling motors, and was once banned by Toyota for reviewing their cars! ...BUT He's very funny in an Allan Partridge/Allan B'stard kind of way and hes as British as Fish and Chips was in the 70's! In the defence of Top Gear (Of Course) they are promoting cars more as a Leisure item than a workhorse...people like us (who love cars) are more likely to use their cars less, for trackdays and weekend driving...or even just propping the bonnet up and polishing the wheels..so I think 'Our Kind' are grossly misunderstood by the Envioronmentalists. On the defence of Transport 2000, they are a pressure group and the effect of their reccomendation will prob in the worst case scenario result in a few TV researchers crossing a few 'T's and drinking less coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai446 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 What a stupid bunch of twats. If they ban this they should ban other shows like stated above, the bill, csi investigates because they promote crime, all boxing, kickboxing and shows like the contender because they promote fighting. All shows like the ones that follow cops around catching criminals, because they promote all kinds of law breaking. There just being complete twats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Anyone wishing to express their views to these muppets direct may do so via their contact page: http://www.transport2000.org.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 But there are other shows that cater for the more sensible motoring. there are? i thought they all got cancelled because they are so boring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 I thought it was an Aston he drove against James May on public transport? Transport 1890's just can't live with the fact that pro-car people have the public eye. Normally, the wanky liberals get all the press and airtime on TV and radio and anything said in a calm and rational manner by pro-car people is shouted down, overridden with emotional gibbering, or simply ignored. Top Gear has substantial airtime on prime time TV though, and a lot of people watch it, and Transport 200 can't abide by that. Can't have the other side of the argument being given a fair shot, otherwise it'll show what a bunch of self-righteous tedious twats T2K are. Global warming? Yeah, it happens. Caused by humans in 80 years flat? I don't think so What hubris. Unless of course the temperature of the Earth has been stable for millions of years before we popped into existence, and not in fact fluctuating up and down like a whore's drawers and oh look we are just about ready for a hot cycle... If emissions need to be cut, how about cutting air travel to necessity only? Because a) I reckon planes pump *really* nasty shit directly into the upper atmosphere, and b) I don't like flying Same basic arguments as Transport 55378008 with the same scientific backing lol -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Driven and 5th gear do reports on handling and stuff, like overtaking a lorry! But I usually turn off at that point and wait for the Ferraris again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 There are plenty of programmes that glamourise things far worse than speed and powerful cars. No calls to ban those, though. It's just another instance of the motorist being villified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 I don't even know where to start with this one, the mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Soaps show everything bad in life; rapes, murders, drugs, underage sex and pregnancy. Could be said they don't 'glamourise' it as much as Top Gear, but Top Gear do still say the good and bad about each car, including practicality etc. Set up a site to ban ALL soaps!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Dear Sirs/Madams/and any other orientated PC type saddos that I may have inadvertently missed out! I have read with surprise and disbelieve the absolute rot and self justification on your site and I must say I am horrified by the so called moralisation of your articles. This is, thank God a FREE country! And while I support freedoms in all of its wide and sometimes worrying aspects, like your groups views, I believe that you have a right to say them. A bit like the National Front or that other Fascist group the BNP. Because that is all you are, Nazi's!! Trying to tell people how to do this and that, what to watch, what to think, what to buy and sell!!! Even Stalin (who incidentally killed off far more of his population by mass murder than Hitler did!) would have looked in disbelief at your drivel and trite that you have posted and laughed his head off wondering what planet you came from and would probably have invaded in short shift because he would have known that non of its inhabitants would have lifted a finger at the erosion and eradication of their liberties. So I say to you, while I would fight to protect your right to say what you are saying, I think what you are saying is complete and utter rubbish and should be stopped as all it is, is an attempt at control and removal of people's personal and civil liberties. You are, in my opinion, very deluded and in need of immediate medical help, and the best hospital for you is in Cuba, another place that would kill you lot off for attempting what you are attempting. I hope that you see the affects that the sheer stupidity and irresponsible attitude that you are showing will soon be changed, when, someone pulls the plug on your funding and computer! Leaving you out on your own without a mouth piece to sprout such drivel! Yours truly, Andy XXXXXXX Think that should leave them in no doubt as to the sheer stupidity of thier crimes!!! :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprarob Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 the problem is these people get there own way in the end speed cameras road humps congestion charges oh yes speeking of charges read this road charging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 oh yes speeking of charges read this road charging i've just read through that article and i can see 2 major problems, where is the money coming from for a national network? and who will agree to having a big brother tracker being installed in there car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynb Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 In reality they aren't much more than 3 beardies sitting in a shed and statements like this are the only way they can make anyone remember they even exist. Palin as boss? Isn't he the guy who continually travels everywhere on non-essential journeys?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 I was sat at the traffic lights the other day having a chat to James May (one of the three presenters) while he was testing the new Mercedes CLS 55AMG.. My father was considering one of these cars and I was asking him what he thought about it as it wont be released here for another year... Anyway Anyway, I am really starting to get the feeling that we are being forced of the roads recently! What the hell is going on? MOre and more cameras to catch you if you are seen drifting above the limit that will instantly have a NIP sent to you with a nice fine to boot. Is there anything we can do as a forum and get the rest of the forums involved? I really think its about time we started to stand up for something we ALL love ... We need to make it clear that the current view on motorists is getting out of hand! I think its about time we stood up for ourselves and stopped just complaining about the problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Well I don't think it'll happen anyway. Even if they get a petition together, with all their members signing it, and sending it away.... 10,000 signatures against 5,000,000 viewers isn't going to sit well with the BBC!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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