Sukhy Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Hi guys, I currently drive an S14a with 350+hp which is pretty quick and was wondering how this compares to a BPU Supra. The reason I am asking is because sometime soon I will be buying a Supra (after selling my car) and im contemplating whether to take it to full BPU first or go to straight single. Ultimately I will be aiming for around 600 - 650hp street usuable power and think that the T67 will be good for this but want to get a feel of the car first. Any ideas/suggestions welcome. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 A BPU Supra will be around 375bhp @ the flywheel at 1.2bar, maybe more depending on mods. I'd recommend going BPU first (it's not expensive), then doing the TTC mod to get used to the power band of a single. Then, when you think you're ready, go single and be prepared for a whole new level of fast. ...it will cost you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 If you want that kind of power you will need to go the single turbo route. BPU will be around the 400 bhp mark max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I would just get a fully built single from Jurgen and forget BPU if your goal is 600BHP why mess about, you have a high BHP RWD car now, a BPU Supra will be no quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I would just get a fully built single from Jurgen and forget BPU if your goal is 600BHP why mess about, you have a high BHP RWD car now, a BPU Supra will be no quicker Exactly that. Buy a completed one as doing it in stages is very expensive. I've gone the "upgrade" route and wish i'd gone the other way (although it's been fun). Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooin Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 i throught someone posted before, said he done the BPU and reach to 450 BHP?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 To be fair it depends on how accurate your 350+ bhp statement is. However, you will virtually have to do the BPU mods to go single. Just go single, but keep in mind that you will be going single. For example, make sure you get a 3" double de-cat and decent free flowing exhaust etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) i throught someone posted before, said he done the BPU and reach to 450 BHP?! Many people say many things on here. That's my throughts on the matter, anyway. Edited May 18, 2009 by Lbm (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 i throught someone posted before, said he done the BPU and reach to 450 BHP?! Yes, BPU mods and a lot more on the side, i.e. cams, ECU and bigger injectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 i throught someone posted before, said he done the BPU and reach to 450 BHP?! 450 is the absolute MAX on hybrids. A dyno can get you any figure you wish. BPU with stock turbo's may just clinch 430bhp (it has been said) but it will take a stand alone ecu and TTC mode to get there. Its all pub talk though, the arse dyno is the best way to tell. Torque means far more to accelerating than BHP does. BHP is a pointless calculated figure that is fudged from the torque at the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhy Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the reply guys. I have already been in touch with Jurgen about a 97/98 TT 6 speed once ive sold my car as I ideally want to get a standard low mileage one first and then mod it myself as ive done with the sx. I just feel that one that has a single on it already may have been through alot. Oh and in terms of the 350+ figure, Ive out paced a an F355 and Evo MR FQ340's etc but lets not get into that here please thanks. Edited May 18, 2009 by Sukhy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 if you throw enough money at it, have rebuilt turbos at 1.4 bar and an iffy dyno maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Many pepole say many things on here. That's my throughts on the matter, anyway. LOL! diplomacy is becoming more common place on here, are we going PC:p Anyway, having been in your position myself, i can give you a more educated answer, a genuine 350BHP S14 will be quicker than a std Supra, and also quicker than a BPU Supra up to about 80-90MPH, due to the weight difference, Supras are lardy beasts, but once moving they are rapid. My advice would be to look for an already modded single or you will just keep throwing money at it until you're satisfied, if thats possible, i could still ask for more and I'm single;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magictorch Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I would skip bpu as well and go for a finished single if you can. 350+ must be quick in a S14:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Look for a Supra that has things that BPU or single require, like upgraded brakes, decent aftermarket suspension etc. Those will be required if you're not staying standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooin Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 some people said BPU only cost around 1,000.....but seem to be more than that....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 some people said BPU only cost around 1,000.....but seem to be more than that....... It requires decat, boost gauge, fuel pump, restrictor ring and exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 some people said BPU only cost around 1,000.....but seem to be more than that....... Depends on what BPU configuration you wanna go. http://garagewhifbitz.co.uk/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=2006&Itemid=53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhy Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 If I do go BPU first, I will be buying top of the range parts as I will have the scope to go for more power. Im in no rush to buy at the moment as the exchange rate isnt too good but could be persuaded otherwise if a really nice example turns up. Now whats playing on my mind is to buy stock and then mod, or to buy single and comromise unknown reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magictorch Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 If I do go BPU first, I will be buying top of the range parts as I will have the scope to go for more power Thats what i have been doing, its working out more expensive but hopefully i'll have a decent setup at the end of it:) Plenty of good advice on here tho if you buy a single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 yip, i had a 300bhp+ s14a and its very similar to my supra, my supe tons more torque tho, feels quicker than my 200sx cos of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Just buy my single! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I would skip bpu as well and go for a finished single if you can. 350+ must be quick in a S14:d Jamie, tell that to mike next time you see him:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 If I do go BPU first, I will be buying top of the range parts as I will have the scope to go for more power. Im in no rush to buy at the moment as the exchange rate isnt too good but could be persuaded otherwise if a really nice example turns up. Now whats playing on my mind is to buy stock and then mod, or to buy single and comromise unknown reliability. If you think already of single, then forget the BPU. But in case you wanna go BPU first, be careful to fit the right parts (which may be exagerated for BPU in a first step) so you don't have to do it twice (ie FMIC, clutch, boost controller). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim1978 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Go with BPU first. It is very reliable and inexpensive mod. If you so single it will cost a lot and you will lose reliability and worst of all, if you can't work on the car yourself you are left in the hands of others if something happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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