RedM Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I think joined after the Chiefgroover days. *adopts French accent* Neuf points. I'm saying nothing about religion these days except that those backwards freaks are holding our whole society back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 *adopts French accent* Neuf points. It has been a long day, been down to Tesco to check Sunday's opening hours, I am shattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I think joined after the Chiefgroover days. It has been a long day, been down to Tesco to check Sunday's opening hours, I am shattered. Think you guys are having your own conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 It has been a long day, been down to Tesco to check Sunday's opening hours, I am shattered. I think you might have missed my meaning there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I think you might have missed my meaning there. Probably, I took it that you meant I missed the 'you'. However I get you now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'm saying nothing about religion these days except that those backwards freaks are holding our whole society back. Bizarre contradiction to your reply 'like wars' to my post.... Also think your above quote is just utterly absurd but sadly I have to turn my computer off as the ball and chain says so Religion doesn't hold us back now, its the laws that we are bound to and the bloody idiots who make them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 How much do you bet? I know at least one person for whom that is not true. You need to get out more (esp on a Sunday) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 However, I am a little bit worried by your example. In earlier posts you would have argued that this was just economic forces and sod them because they should do it because you the customer was right and they were there to serve you. Seems like some of my message may have got home to you. Or maybe I've just pointed out your slightly hypocritical slant on things. But if you'd like to consider it a little victory then help yourself, it bothers me not either way. You do seem to be slightly missing my point though. It's not a case of people should serve me whenever I demand. It's more a case of if people are willing to work (and I don't know if you've spotted it in your cosy little part of the shire, but there's quite a few people who are looking for work) then why not let them? I know one person very close to me who would be more than happy to be working nighshifts in a local supermarket right now rather than having to do temp work or get the pitiful government job seekers allowance for when there isn't enough work out there for all of the people on the agencies list. Yes, some people will be exploited. No matter what you do some people are going to be exploited. You could give everyone four days off a week, two weeks at Christmas and a month off in the summer and people will still be exploited. That shouldn't dictate how the general population should live their lives, it should mean that the more sensible laws that are already there to prevent the exploitation are better implemented. For example the "law" that limits the number of hours you work to 40 hours a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Bizarre contradiction to your reply 'like wars' to my post.... Also think your above quote is just utterly absurd but sadly I have to turn my computer off as the ball and chain says so Religion doesn't hold us back now, its the laws that we are bound to and the bloody idiots who make them. I despise religion. IMO there is no room for it in a progressive society. I can't say any more as I'll end up upsetting the sheep and getting points again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Or maybe I've just pointed out your slightly hypocritical slant on things. But if you'd like to consider it a little victory then help yourself, it bothers me not either way. You do seem to be slightly missing my point though. It's not a case of people should serve me whenever I demand. It's more a case of if people are willing to work (and I don't know if you've spotted it in your cosy little part of the shire, but there's quite a few people who are looking for work) then why not let them? I know one person very close to me who would be more than happy to be working nighshifts in a local supermarket right now rather than having to do temp work or get the pitiful government job seekers allowance for when there isn't enough work out there for all of the people on the agencies list. Yes, some people will be exploited. No matter what you do some people are going to be exploited. You could give everyone four days off a week, two weeks at Christmas and a month off in the summer and people will still be exploited. That shouldn't dictate how the general population should live their lives, it should mean that the more sensible laws that are already there to prevent the exploitation are better implemented. For example the "law" that limits the number of hours you work to 40 hours a week. Parecon (participatory economics) and workers co-ops. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Or maybe I've just pointed out your slightly hypocritical slant on things. But if you'd like to consider it a little victory then help yourself, it bothers me not either way. You do seem to be slightly missing my point though. It's not a case of people should serve me whenever I demand. It's more a case of if people are willing to work (and I don't know if you've spotted it in your cosy little part of the shire, but there's quite a few people who are looking for work) then why not let them? I know one person very close to me who would be more than happy to be working nighshifts in a local supermarket right now rather than having to do temp work or get the pitiful government job seekers allowance for when there isn't enough work out there for all of the people on the agencies list. Yes, some people will be exploited. No matter what you do some people are going to be exploited. You could give everyone four days off a week, two weeks at Christmas and a month off in the summer and people will still be exploited. That shouldn't dictate how the general population should live their lives, it should mean that the more sensible laws that are already there to prevent the exploitation are better implemented. For example the "law" that limits the number of hours you work to 40 hours a week. I was interested to see you were looking at the consequences and in that respect you have taken on board what I have said. That is a small victory for me. You have learnt something positive and I feel my work here is done. Remember this is one small step towards being less selfish and you should embrace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willismaximus Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Well now that this one seems to have wound down..... what should we discuss today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I was interested to see you were looking at the consequences and in that respect you have taken on board what I have said. That is a small victory for me. You have learnt something positive and I feel my work here is done. Remember this is one small step towards being less selfish and you should embrace it. Your condesending, patronising, pious attitude absolutely amazes me. Less selfish... open your mind a little and look at the bigger picture. You're obviously 100% sure that we should all be living to your ideals, and clearly there's no room for any change in your mind so I'll leave the discussion here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Your condesending, patronising, pious attitude absolutely amazes me. Less selfish... open your mind a little and look at the bigger picture. You're obviously 100% sure that we should all be living to your ideals, and clearly there's no room for any change in your mind so I'll leave the discussion here. Thank goodness I am not the only one that thinks this too. 'My way or no way' is not the best quality to display. Everyone in entitled to their own opinion on trading hours, although a few members have shown how one dimensional their chain of thought is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Put yourself in the other persons shoes for a minute. Be that mum who works a second job and leaves the kids at home and who would never get a chance for a break if the law did not force her employer to close for a couple of hours on one day of the week. Be that young lad who wants to go home to see his parents over Christmas and cant do it because he has to get to work on Boxing Day and the trains don't run. I'm almost there!! At the end of the day it's their choice. I'm looking for a second job at the moment cos money is so tight, but I refuse to work on a checkout or behind a bar for the very reasons you're spouting - I've chosen that route though, it may well result in eviction if I end up losing my current job, but that's my road. They can all go down the same road if they choose, but if they choose to go down the other path of working for Asda then they should expect to be shafted, and if they demand Christmas day off they should expect the sack - pretty simple really. Its a Christian country and Sunday is meant to be a rest day. Most of our laws are based on Christian principles. If you don't like it you could try moving country....I hear Iran, Iraq, and a few other countries are not Christian countries..... but then you might find your liberties more constricted over there than here. Yet we make allowances for all religions in this country, people get away with all sorts in the name of their religion, so why can't I claim Sunday as my day of late night shopping because the rest of my week is taken up with other things? I suppose a forum frequented by people that think nothing of spending their free cash on a 3litre car that drinks petrol at £5 a gallon and probably think nothing of spending a grand on set of alloys and tyres is the wrong place to talk about those workers who have no choice and get a crappy deal in their lives and rely on the law to look after their interests. I own a £1500 Diesel MPV! When you have no choices and are working like a dog and are forced to sign crappy contracts and book holidays two years in advance and don't get sick pay and then work whatever days your employer says.... .... You'll probably be glad of some more hours! No surprise that all he got for his many years loyalty and hard work was a nervous breakdown in the end. I think we all fall into the trap of believing our hard work and loyalty to our company will actually get us somewhere! When the poop hits the fan they won't think twice about shafting you!! The idea was that the 7th day as the 'holiest' (sp?) of days and should be spend thanking God. You were not meant to do anything other than worship him. It wasn't the church's excuse for the priests to have a lie in. Aren't we beyond all that now though? There are far too many aethiests in the world nowadays to not start listening to what they want rather than what the old book tells us. Daft as it sounds, if people read the bible or went to church they might learn a huge amount of why things are the way they are in the world.... True, I'm betting I'd still disagree with it and think it should change though. we are so lucky and don't even realise. I do realise, why should that stop me wanting more though? //edit: I'm not fussed about shops opening on Sundays, I'm more annoyed that our local Tesco is closed cos it's being knocked down and rebuilt, won't open again until November - I'm having to go to Asda with all the fat football shirt wearing louts and ugly women with Tyrone and Chelsea f-ing and blinding behind them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Come in late on this one... So i'll leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 i'll leave Music to the ears of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Come in late on this one... So i'll leave You more than likely had nothing constructive to say anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Music to the ears of many. A faint murmur in comparison to the orchestral fanfare that would be if you had said such a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 You more than likely had nothing constructive to say anyway. Erection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 A faint murmur in comparison to the orchestral fanfare that would be if you had said such a thing Hmmm.... I wonder if that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Soooo how many of you guys have gone to the pub on a Sunday evening then? Not me. I thought pubs were so 20th century and everyone just drank themselves into a stupor at home on cheap Stella nowadays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hmmm.... I wonder if that's true. Could always try it? vote for your resignation. Alla Michael Martin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBDJ Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Maybe I'm being stupid here, but I can't see how being open another night would be such a big detriment to the country? Even a few hours longer on a Sunday would be nice. I've noticed Halfords are open until 5pm now on a Sunday, those poor exploited workers. At the end of the day, it's up to the shops if they wanted to open - and up to the workers if they want to work those hours. If the shops are exploiting the workers and forcing them to work longer hours than is suitable for them then you need to target the employers surely? What difference does Sunday make when they could have them working 24x7 for 6 days? You can't always target the lowest common denominator - we'd end up with even more pathetic speed limits in no time. Personally I work 5 days and 3 nights a week every week, leaving Sunday as the only day I do no work at all. One of my jobs requires a lot of preparation work too. I still manage to squeeze plenty of family time in, along with taking my son swimming once a week and spending some romantic time with my fiancee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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