Guigsy Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 its just irritating that i cant do what i wanted to today that i realy wanted to get sorted. im just like that i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoFuture Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 stores can stay open 24/7 if they offer a "service" that is required hence the "tesco metro" stores get round the law by having a minimarket in a petrol station, the law sucks and it rediculas but the religious types dont like work on a sunday so as a country with no spine we dont want to anoy the god botherers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 stores can stay open 24/7 if they offer a "service" that is required hence the "tesco metro" stores get round the law by having a minimarket in a petrol station, the law sucks and it rediculas but the religious types dont like work on a sunday so as a country with no spine we dont want to anoy the god botherers ah. that explains that then. But america has a million times as many religious nuts as us and they dont have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 That is one thing that I found strange when I moved down to England, the lazy Sunday trading hours. However got used to it now and I love it as I waste enough time in the house before being dragged shopping with Sarah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the law forces shops and the like to close early on Sundays. If a business wants to open on a Sunday then why shouldn't they be allowed to? All this talk about it being the downfall of society is a bit melodramatic isn't it? If people don't want to work weekends then they wouldn't apply for a job that means working weekends. For other people working weekends would actually be right up their street. I think some people need to realise we're not living in the 70's any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the law forces shops and the like to close early on Sundays. If a business wants to open on a Sunday then why shouldn't they be allowed to? All this talk about it being the downfall of society is a bit melodramatic isn't it? If people don't want to work weekends then they wouldn't apply for a job that means working weekends. For other people working weekends would actually be right up their street. I think some people need to realise we're not living in the 70's any more! Thank goodness for this post, things have progressed and we live in a consumer world, if you dont like it you can always avoid it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the law forces shops and the like to close early on Sundays. If a business wants to open on a Sunday then why shouldn't they be allowed to? All this talk about it being the downfall of society is a bit melodramatic isn't it? If people don't want to work weekends then they wouldn't apply for a job that means working weekends. For other people working weekends would actually be right up their street. I think some people need to realise we're not living in the 70's any more! exactly my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 America as a society is moribund with its addiction to non-stop shopping and commerce. Europe on the other hand has far more draconian laws when it comes to opening times - in parts of Germany for instance if you run out of food on a Friday you'll starve until Monday. In the UK we're somewhere between the two. The restricted opening times on a Sunday can be a relief as well as an inconvenience, not just for workers but shoppers too. See the downtime as an enforced break that your boss might give you when you've been putting in a long shift at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoFuture Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 laws on this are moronic, if a trader wishes to trade he should be allowed too, infact, did you know that the law probihibits all sales on a sunday unless within the hours of trading, so ebay would be screwed if the law actually stood tread... its stupid, no wonder we are in a credit down turn, we are told when to trade and the govenment spends our taxes on moats and swimming pools i did a tune, bot not sure how to host an mp3 here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 i did a tune, bot not sure how to host an mp3 here random! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoFuture Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 other thread mate, about politics and current events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think some people need to realise we're not living in the 70's any more! Indeed, there is a fantastic shop in my town that sells lovely foods, local meets, local dairy stuff etc etc but they open 9-5:30 only. Result...I go to Tescos instead, because I work office hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 stores can stay open 24/7 if they offer a "service" that is required hence the "tesco metro" stores get round the law by having a minimarket in a petrol station, the law sucks and it rediculas but the religious types dont like work on a sunday so as a country with no spine we dont want to anoy the god botherers These are a PITA. Last time I was back I had to navigate my way through a mini market and then join a queue of fat bastards buying baskets of junk food to pay for my petrol. What should have taken less than a minute took 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franko Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I stand corrected, wonder why Lakeside closes and the one in your link, (Inverness) remains open Scotland isnt effected by Trading hours, its only an English law/bill. I had this fight with my girlfriend a lot and when she moved up here she was amazed by how different everything was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Sorry peeps but all I hear is self self self. I want to buy therefore I should be able to buy. I might be older than many of you (46) and I think it shows. What is wrong in having part of one day that gives workers some time off. We are talking about those who have very little choice unless the law makes the break for them. Has anyone ever considered the staff who work on bank holidays. Maybe they would like to have drink the night before and a lazy day afterwards. All you will see in this debate are your own wants and none of the consequences. I wonder how you stand on the minimum wage being abolished as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I worked in retail a few years ago had to work weekends so the sunday trading laws suited me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Sorry peeps but all I hear is self self self. I want to buy therefore I should be able to buy. I might be older than many of you (46) and I think it shows. What is wrong in having part of one day that gives workers some time off. We are talking about those who have very little choice unless the law makes the break for them. Has anyone ever considered the staff who work on bank holidays. Maybe they would like to have drink the night before and a lazy day afterwards. All you will see in this debate are your own wants and none of the consequences. I wonder how you stand on the minimum wage being abolished as well. What the hell are you talking about? Very few people work 7 days a week. All that happens for those who work Saturday and Sunday is that their weekends are shifted in relation to everyone elses. OK it clearly doesn't suit you, but why should everyone have to live to your ideals? I don't know about your age, but your thinking is very old. Welcome to the 21st century! Minimum wage, righto let's get rid of it at the same time. I mean that's clearly the path that I'm taking. Let's bring back child labour whilst we're at it. We can use them to serve us in our 24 hour shops society destroying shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 All you see in this debate are your own wants and none of the consequences. I challenge you to put across a few points for the other arguement and the consequences for 24/7 consumerism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 All you see in this debate are your own wants and none of the consequences. Self self self I agree. I wouldn't worry about it though. Once all the 'plebs' with their shop jobs start working 24/7 it'll not be long before all the 'really smart people' with 'proper' jobs follow suit. Consumer society. Gotta love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 All you see in this debate are your own wants and none of the consequences. I challenge you to put across a few points for the other arguement and the consequences for 24/7 consumerism What about the Internet eh? What about the 24 hour self indulgence that offers. Best get rid of that. 24 hour Petrol stations. Nope let's shot rid of those too, there's no reason why people can't wait to make their journeys the next morning. In fact let's put everyone under a curfew. That way we will also help to enforce family values by virtue of the fact that they won't be allowed to be apart from the hours of 8 till 7. Your right though, I mean if the shops were open 24/7 we would all go out spending more. Imagine what that would do to the supply chain. Poor old lorry drivers would be forced to work more hours to feed our insatiable thirst for goods leading to more road deaths and pollution. Poor old farmers would have to be waking up even earlier to milk poor old overburdened Ermintrude. What about the environment? Will someone just think about the environment?! What, with the increase in landfill from all the rubbish we'll be replacing with new goods that we'll be out buying at 2 am in the morning. Let alone the additional power consumption keeping these 24 hour churches to the devil open will use, heating the world and destroying Percy penguins home. Of course there's your old favourite. The little corner shop that's been put under pressure since the big old supermarket store opened on the edge of town. You know the one, the one who's proprieter, 30 years ago, didn't really look forward and think about what his customers really want in their lives. A trade off between quality and convenience. Is that enough of a look at the other side of the debate or should I continue? The fact of the matter is that people will still buy the same amount of stuff as they bought before. You only need so much food to live on. You only need so many TV's in your house. The difference will be instead of the vast majority of the population cramming themselves into town centres at 11 am on a Saturday morning, they'll be doing it a time that is more convenient to themselves. I bet you were well against the 24 hour drinking laws as well weren't you? Look at the downfall to society that has produced.... oh now wait, it's exactly the same as it was before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I agree. I wouldn't worry about it though. Once all the 'plebs' with their shop jobs start working 24/7 it'll not be long before all the 'really smart people' with 'proper' jobs follow suit. Consumer society. Gotta love it. Factories have been working 24/7 for decades if not hundreds of years. In fact their is a fair chance that a good portion of the components in the car you drive were made at night. What a craddle of consumerism you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Isn't communism just a fantastic idea?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 What about the ...........: Please continue - you might actually come up with something useful to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Oh come on, you can do better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 The Sunday Trading Act 1994 limits shop opening hours of “large shops”. A “large shop” is defined by the size of the internal retail area i.e. the part of the shop building that is open to the public & used for the sale of goods. The Act ignores any external or open display, such as may be found in garden centres/DIY stores and also ignores storage, office and other non retail sale areas, and only applies to the sale of goods, not services. The sale of meals, refreshments and intoxicating liquors on or off the premises is also exempted. A “large shop” is one with an enclosed sales area exceeding 280 sq m/ 3,000 sq ft There are no Sunday trading restrictions on shops smaller than this.(i.e. shops not exceeding 280sq m/ 3,000 sq ft of enclosed sales area. A “large shop” are subject to the following restrictions on Sunday opening: • They may open for a maximum of 6 consecutive hours, between 10am and 6pm • They must not open on Easter Sunday • They must not open on Christmas Day when it falls on a Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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