Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 not that it could really be thousands of years ago, if it was Christianity Talking about dates etc, I've read that christianity can be traced back 6000 years. (4000bc). But when i read about Scientology when it came a big thing with Tom Cruise getting involved, i was suprised to read that it can only be traced back 60 years as it was started the 1950's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Scientology was an L Hubbard creation wasn't it? You know, the FICTION author!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Keep well away from Ouija boards. I know two people that have bad experiences. The guy I work with gave a similar description on how it moved about. At one point they all agreed to let go at the same point, but as they did the pointer jumped off the board and went flying across the room. A Ouija Board also predicted a death in the family to within a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Keep well away from Ouija boards. I know two people that have bad experiences. The guy I work with gave a similar description on how it moved about. At one point they all agreed to let go at the same point, but as they did the pointer jumped off the board and went flying across the room. A Ouija Board also predicted a death in the family to within a month. Just stick to the porn instead hey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Mental image of several people holding Eds pointer, moving it around at ever increasing speed until it shoots off across the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Ouija is a trademark of Parker Brothers You know, the same people who make and sell Monopoly, Cluedo.. and Bop it!! I wonder what cut the demons get from the sale of each Ouija board. They must be inline for at least 50% because after all they have to provide the after market service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Ouija is a trademark of Parker Brothers You know, the same people who make and sell Monopoly, Cluedo.. and Bop it!! I wonder what cut the demons get from the sale of each Ouija board. They must be inline for at least 50% because after all they have to provide the after market service haha serious!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Scientology was an L Hubbard creation wasn't it? You know, the FICTION author!! Yes it is! Brilliant hey! I wonder if at the back of the Scientology bible it says; "Other bibles in the religion series by L Hubbard include:.... "D haha serious!? Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Talking about dates etc, I've read that christianity can be traced back 6000 years. (4000bc). I thought it was 2,009 years old, give or take. I see Christianity as the teachings of Jesus as conveyed through the gospels. Willing to be corrected, though. But when i read about Scientology when it came a big thing with Tom Cruise getting involved, i was suprised to read that it can only be traced back 60 years as it was started the 1950's. Yeah, as Trev says, it was L. Ron Hubbard. I have nothing to say about Scientology for fear of having my ass sued, so here's an irrelevant nursery rhyme instead: Old Mother Hubbard Went to the cupboard To get her poor doggy a bone When she bent over Old Rover took over And gave her a bone of his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Old Mother Hubbard Went to the cupboard To get her poor doggy a bone When she bent over Old Rover took over And gave her a bone of his own. errr... like wrong thread dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I thought it was 2,009 years old, give or take. I see Christianity as the teachings of Jesus as conveyed through the gospels. Willing to be corrected, though. Yep pretty much, the New Testament is the teachings of Jesus, the old testament is all about the lead up to Jesus Its all about the man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I thought it was 2,009 years old, give or take. I see Christianity as the teachings of Jesus as conveyed through the gospels. Willing to be corrected, though. I'm not saying that it is 6k years old, just something i read. I suppose it's what can be classed as Christianity. If it did exist in some way back then it obviously wouldn't have been called Christianity, but then again, today’s Christianity is much different in the way that it was preached and practiced all that time ago but it’s still Christianity, albeit we were / are all reading from the same book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Your Sig: You say check out John 3:16 in your sig.. I think you have it wrong, i'm sure it was Austin 3:16 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Yep pretty much, the New Testament is the teachings of Jesus, the old testament is all about the lead up to Jesus Its all about the man It's old news though isn't it? All centred around worshipping the sun, the star in the east, the three kings, 12 disciples, 25th December, 3 day resurrection etc. It's all been worshipped before, over 6000 years ago. It just wasn't called Christianity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Alex, How closely do you follow the teachings of the bible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 We didnt buy a board, so Satan got no cut from our sale. Just cut small squares of paper and put a letter of the alphabet on each, and 4 more with yes, no, enter and exit. Didnt even have any numbers written down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 its all becoming clear now, like i've seen the light..... You see I once bought a bucket seat from Demon Tweeks and ended up driving like a man possessed............. ..............redemption from eternal damnation came from an angel (in this instance he projected himself in the form of a traffic policeman) whom steered me away from the devil (and onto the hard shoulder) and exorcised me by a mild slap on the wrist and fixed penalty notice. Angels 1 Demons 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 its all becoming clear now, like i've seen the light..... You see I once bought a bucket seat from Demon Tweeks and ended up driving like a man possessed............. ..............redemption from eternal damnation came from an angel (in this instance he projected himself in the form of a traffic policeman) whom steered me away from the devil (and onto the hard shoulder) and exorcised me by a mild slap on the wrist and fixed penalty notice. Angels 1 Demons 0 Are you Dan Brown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I thought it was 2,009 years old, give or take. Yes. Where on earth did you get that figure from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 its all becoming clear now, like i've seen the light..... You see I once bought a bucket seat from Demon Tweeks and ended up driving like a man possessed............. ..............redemption from eternal damnation came from an angel (in this instance he projected himself in the form of a traffic policeman) whom steered me away from the devil (and onto the hard shoulder) and exorcised me by a mild slap on the wrist and fixed penalty notice. Angels 1 Demons 0 Taxi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 It's old news though isn't it? All centred around worshipping the sun, the star in the east, the three kings, 12 disciples, 25th December, 3 day resurrection etc. It's all been worshipped before, over 6000 years ago. It just wasn't called Christianity. Yeah, but none of that stuff is the central message of Jesus' teachings, surely? It's just the trappings. I'm not a Christian, so I'm on shaky ground here, but I'd say the central themes are: 1. One God (but three aspects - something that the early church spent enormous effort trying to resolve) 2. New covenant between man and God. Jesus suffers for the sins of man, so man can start again, free from original sin. 3. Gentle and forgiving New Testament God, not veangeful and terrifying Old Testament God. 4. Redemption. No human being is too awful to be forgiven and to move on (the central theme of the opera, er, Tannhauser) 5. Redemption and reconciliation with God operates via Jesus. 6. The love of worldly goods is not where it's at. 7. The kingdom of heaven isn't going to be a rich boy's playground and material success means nothing to God- in fact the poor, downtrodden and humble a=will be right there with you andon an equal footing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 We didnt buy a board, so Satan got no cut from our sale. Just cut small squares of paper and put a letter of the alphabet on each, and 4 more with yes, no, enter and exit. Didnt even have any numbers written down. That's why you got the effects you did, then. The glass was moved by the spirit of George Parker, founder of the company: "W-H-Y D-I-D-N-T Y-O-U B-U-Y A B-O-A-R-D ?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Yeah, but none of that stuff is the central message of Jesus' teachings, surely? It's just the trappings. I'm not a Christian, so I'm on shaky ground here, but I'd say the central themes are: 1. One God (but three aspects - something that the early church spent enormous effort trying to resolve) 2. New covenant between man and God. Jesus suffers for the sins of man, so man can start again, free from original sin. 3. Gentle and forgiving New Testament God, not veangeful and terrifying Old Testament God. 4. Redemption. No human being is too awful to be forgiven and to move on (the central theme of the opera, er, Tannhauser) 5. Redemption and reconciliation with God operates via Jesus. 6. The love of worldly goods is not where it's at. 7. The kingdom of heaven isn't going to be a rich boy's playground and material success means nothing to God- in fact the poor, downtrodden and humble a=will be right there with you andon an equal footing. Trappings fundamental to the teachings though, surely? They lack credibility, and hence the teachings do. IMHO of course, not wanting to ruffle feathers. To me it's akin to religiously following Big Brother. For me it's easier to subscribe to things I can relate to. The whole jesus/god thing is so riddled with inaccuracies it's laughable. As for "His" message: well, I think people are quick to confuse morals with religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 We didnt buy a board, so Satan got no cut from our sale. Just cut small squares of paper and put a letter of the alphabet on each, and 4 more with yes, no, enter and exit. Didnt even have any numbers written down. Perhaps you could get a spirit to move a clay bar around a bonnet? Free labour and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Having sat quietly in the wings and read everything I can conclude its all bollox. I cannot find any proof in anything anyone has said that shows that a Ouija Board is anything other than a bit of wishful thinking and kidology rolled into a good parlour game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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